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Old 08-24-2009, 01:40 AM   #1
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Default Beasley must be our 6th man

http://blogs.herald.com/miami_heat/2...r-dispair.html

This is why Beasley has to come off the bench this season IMO (barring a trade).
We just dont have anything solid to help us win games off the bench if he starts. Beasley has to continue to develop while being our sixth man. Sure he can play 30+ mins, but we need him at the start of the start of the 2nd and end of the 3rd/start of 4th etc while Wade/Chalmers/JO rests.

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Old 08-24-2009, 02:53 AM   #2
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Default Re: Beasley must be our 6th man

Reasons why Beasley should start... feel free to respond:

1. If he is just a trade chip... how many teams are willing to trade an allstar/superstar for a guy who couldn't start on his own team?

2. If the plan going into 2010 is to run a core of Wade + Beasley + Max contract... I'd atleast want them to start building chemistry this season in 2009, rather than throw the trio all together in 2010. Wade & Beasley should be getting their Paul/West on right now... all day pick and roll Wade & Beasley... pick your poison.

3. Playing 30 mins off the bench against tired starters and bench players is pointless. He needs to play against the best, defend the best, and honestly play more than "30 mins" to help develop him as much as possible. How are you even going to be sure he can last 37+ mins as a starter in 2010 if you do otherwise?

4. There are other 6th men out there to be signed. Raymond Felton, Nate Robinson, Flip Murray... even Bobby Jackson would be a guy who could be signed as a scoring punch instead of stunting Beasley's growth on the bench. It's not his fault the Heat is in a transitional phase that has a scrub supporting cast. Plus, if Riley was as sure/stubborn as he was about not stunting the development of Chalmers & Cook by bringing in another guard, it must mean he feels they made enough progress over the summer that they are near a point where they can run the team when Wade is on the bench.

5. It will finally be the push to make Beasley feel embraced as a long term puzzle piece we plan to keep around for years to come. No need to continue alienating him from the starters as an afterthought not deemed "ready" to be a part of that group.
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:38 AM   #3
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Default Re: Beasley must be our 6th man

You give solid reasons. But I feel they don't factor in the Heat trying to win right now enough.

Its gonna be a balancing act of developing Beasley and star chemistry, as well as not being -20 when the second unit is playing. Wade can't be playing 40 mins IMO and if he is resting more we will need some serious punch off the bench.

You mention its not his 'fault'. well no one is at fault. There is no shame in playing 6th man. I dont have to list the great 6th men - you know them.

I believe that the correct balance of success and developement is Beasley playing 30-35 in a 6th man role.

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Old 08-24-2009, 04:16 PM   #4
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Default Re: Beasley must be our 6th man

Beasley has some major psychological problems stemming from his drug abuse and depression. He just recently checked into rehab. Good luck with him.
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:47 PM   #5
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Beasley has some major psychological problems stemming from his drug abuse and depression. He just recently checked into rehab. Good luck with him.

I'm not aware of any "major psychological problems" with Beasley, care to drop a link to that info?
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:28 PM   #6
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Default Re: Beasley must be our 6th man

Well he just recently deleted his Twitter page. If you had a chance to see some of his posts you would agree with me.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:30 PM   #7
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Default Re: Beasley must be our 6th man

I still don't think Beasley should be a 6th man. Ira makes some quick points about it:

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...-vs-riley.html

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Then there is Riley, who is charged more with the long view, of positioning the Heat in a better place when it comes to Dwyane Wade's impending free agency and the roster's anticipated overhaul during the 2010 offseason spend-a-thon.

To Riley, nothing may be more significant that boosting Beasley's stock, perhaps to market him at the February trading deadline, perhaps to include him in an offseason trade, or perhaps to show Wade that there is something tangible in that complex, youthful package.

One thing a team can't do is boost a player's stock in a meager role. Showing that Michael Beasley can be a quality sixth man likely will fetch you nothing more than a sixth man in return. Wade certainly wasn't looking for a sixth man with the Heat's No. 2 pick in the 2008 draft.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:18 PM   #8
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Default Re: Beasley must be our 6th man

People act like Wade is dumb. Wade knows Beasley is a talent. And Wade wants to win.
What this simpleton journo is saying is that Spo wants to win now, and the team had better balance and will win more games with Beasley as a 6th man. But Pat is looking for trade options and an eye to the future with Wade. Dude seriously hasn't thought it through.
How is 6th man a meager role? Ira has lost it. 6th man could be 38 mins a game or 22 mins a game. So did Kevin Mchale had poor value to trade as 6th man? Did a healthy Ginobli? a Billy Cunningham? A Ricky Pierce? Even an Odom, Gordon or Kukoc?
Fact: Heat need talent off the bench to win now and play at their best. Even Ira admits this is the case.
Fact: A sixth man can hold his value in the trade market. It is obscene to suggest a 20 year old super talent that may average 15-18 points a game off the bench will have a low trade value.
Fact: Playing 30-35 mins a game at 20 years old against starters and role players will not hinder a players development.

It's a no brainer imo.
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:54 AM   #9
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People act like Wade is dumb. Wade knows Beasley is a talent. And Wade wants to win.
What this simpleton journo is saying is that Spo wants to win now, and the team had better balance and will win more games with Beasley as a 6th man. But Pat is looking for trade options and an eye to the future with Wade. Dude seriously hasn't thought it through.
How is 6th man a meager role? Ira has lost it. 6th man could be 38 mins a game or 22 mins a game. So did Kevin Mchale had poor value to trade as 6th man? Did a healthy Ginobli? a Billy Cunningham? A Ricky Pierce? Even an Odom, Gordon or Kukoc?
Fact: Heat need talent off the bench to win now and play at their best. Even Ira admits this is the case.
Fact: A sixth man can hold his value in the trade market. It is obscene to suggest a 20 year old super talent that may average 15-18 points a game off the bench will have a low trade value.
Fact: Playing 30-35 mins a game at 20 years old against starters and role players will not hinder a players development.

It's a no brainer imo.
Don't paint it out as it's the "perfect" situation he go to the bench.

There are obviously pros to either situation, whether he start, or whether he's coming off the bench. But there are also cons to both. We'll just have to wait and see what they do during training camp and pre-season.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:56 PM   #10
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Default Re: Beasley must be our 6th man

Best five players start. Is Beasley 1 of them? Only the coaching staff knows.
But it,s either Beasley, Jones, or QRich who will start.

& when i say (best) i don't exactly mean most talented, i mean best fit all around.
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