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Old 12-09-2006, 11:45 AM   #1
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Default A.I. a Clipper?

ESPN thinks the Clipps can make a run at A.I.

What do you guys think of this trade?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...20~20~12~12~12
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Old 12-09-2006, 02:25 PM   #2
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ESPN thinks the Clipps can make a run at A.I.

What do you guys think of this trade?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...20~20~12~12~12
That could work but is that what we really want? If we do that trade we can probably kiss an extension for Livingston good bye.
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:47 PM   #3
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Take out Carney and/or Louis Williams and add a future first from LA and Phila considers
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Take out Carney and/or Louis Williams and add a future first from LA and Phila considers

Is the future first protected or not?


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Old 12-10-2006, 05:03 AM   #5
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ESPN thinks the Clipps can make a run at A.I.

What do you guys think of this trade?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...20~20~12~12~12

Umm ESPN is not talking about that kinda thing though. LOL

Carney is not leaving Billy King would not trade him, and same for Williams. And there would have to be a first in the deal. And I am not sure what our gm wants he might not want that he might like Livingston.

And the dude who said kiss a extension for Livingston good bye. Why?
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:26 PM   #6
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Thumbs up Clips could make an AI trade work

and here is why:

Maggette, Mobley, and Rebraca for AI works under the salary
cap and leaves the team with enough $$$ to extend Livingstick if
he produces this year.

AI gives Donald T the marquee player to compete with Kobe
in the LA rivalry. Ticket sales will go up with AI. The league likes
the rivalry too.

AI would coexist with Sammy because he needs a strong
leader to keep him in check.

Stern would be all for the deal. He wants an NBA championship
brought back to a big market (LA, Chicago, and NY) to increase ratings.

Dunleavy could handle AI even if they dont get along. Remember
Dunleavy kept the Jailblazers together before they imploded when he left.

Philly gets fair value in the trade. They acquire two veteran starters.
King can look no further than last year's Artest trade to see that the Pacers
got robbed in renting Peja for one year and Maggette and Mobley would
be at least be a consolitation prize in an AI trade.
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:50 PM   #7
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Id even do Cassell Mobley and Rebraca for AI or Cassell Mobley Maggette Rebraca for AI and Kevin Ollie. Cassell could bring some swagger to Philly and maybe he can even get Chris Webber to play better. Livingston and AI in the same lineup would be nuts. It also helps for Livingston to guard opposing swingmen and AI to guard PGs.
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Hey I am a huge AI fan. And as much as I hate to see him leave my Sixers I would be actually happy if he went to the Clipps then he can maybe win a title. Because if he goes to Boston, Knicks, Bobcats, Warriors, Kings, ect.......He won't be able to win a title, and he deserves one for sure.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:21 AM   #9
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and here is why:

Maggette, Mobley, and Rebraca for AI works under the salary
cap and leaves the team with enough $$$ to extend Livingstick if
he produces this year.

AI gives Donald T the marquee player to compete with Kobe
in the LA rivalry. Ticket sales will go up with AI. The league likes
the rivalry too.

AI would coexist with Sammy because he needs a strong
leader to keep him in check.

Stern would be all for the deal. He wants an NBA championship
brought back to a big market (LA, Chicago, and NY) to increase ratings.

Dunleavy could handle AI even if they dont get along. Remember
Dunleavy kept the Jailblazers together before they imploded when he left.

Philly gets fair value in the trade. They acquire two veteran starters.
King can look no further than last year's Artest trade to see that the Pacers
got robbed in renting Peja for one year and Maggette and Mobley would
be at least be a consolitation prize in an AI trade.



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Old 12-11-2006, 09:10 PM   #10
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Default The Clips dont need to give away Livingstick

to make the deal work. There are limited deals and teams willing and
able to take on AIs salary. ESPN has it wrong claiming the
offers are better than the summer. Philly is in a bad spot and
will get the short end of the stick in any deal made for AI who
they must trade now. This is the end of AIs Philly career.
The Clips dont need to get in a bidding war for AI although
adding him to the team would be great for an immeadiate
run at the trophy. EB would have no problem with AI being
the #1 scoring option with him second.
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:07 AM   #11
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Umm ESPN is not talking about that kinda thing though. LOL

Carney is not leaving Billy King would not trade him, and same for Williams. And there would have to be a first in the deal. And I am not sure what our gm wants he might not want that he might like Livingston.

And the dude who said kiss a extension for Livingston good bye. Why?
Rebraca has a team option on his last year of conract that probably will not get picked up and Yari had a team option that did not get picked up this year to clear room for an extension on Livingston's contract. We need to make room for future cap space not take on a very hefty contract that will go even higher next year and even higher the year after so if you do the math we will not have the cap space to get AI and extend Livingston. Believe me I would love to have AI as a Clipper but I think we could only afford around 15,000,000.00 in salaries and that all depends on The Clippers trading Maggette and Mobley. AI will be around 4-5,000,000.00 too high in salary amount in two years, exactly when a Livingston extension will kick in. The salaries work right now but what will it look like in the future. Unfortunately Philly can't take a first round draft pick because they have a max roster set so you need to either trade equal players or receive less players in return and that is really difficult because of the amount of AI's contract.

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I really think it is going to come down to a three or four team trade deal and don't be surprised if Seattle is put in the mix.
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:27 PM   #13
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AI to the Clippers would be a big bang to the NBA world. First of all, AI to a differen't team alone is big news. AI in LA makes it even bigger news. Kobe vs AI in LA is major news. AI would turn the Clippers around to elites and he wins the MVP for the first time since 01. Lakers vs the Clippers, Kobe vs. AI in the WCF. David Stern would die happy if this trade happens.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:49 PM   #14
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Talking Rumors from the East Coast

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"In Rumorville - and, please, there is no hard confirmation of anything here - there is speculation of discussions with the Los Angeles Clippers that could net some combination of Corey Maggette, Sam Cassell, Zeljko Rebraca and a first-round draft choice"

-Philadelphia Inquirer

The Celtics practiced today in Philly but they didn't have any new faces on the floor, as in Allen Iverson, the Sixers guard who is on the trading block. The buzz around the league was that the Clippers were moving into the lead in the Iverson Derby. The Celtics were on the outside, in part, because the word was the price would be too high.

- Boston Globe


Dont look the price to go any higher. Clip management is astute enough
not to outbid themselves. Livingston will remain and hopefully
Mobley will be in the deal instead of Sammy.

Bring on AI, the ironic answer besides the old ball to a sluggish
mediocre start
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:39 AM   #15
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...~ 20~20~12~12

OK OK. Is this one better?

Philly Gets:
Corey Maggette
Cuttino Mobley
Zeljko Rebraca
1st Rounder

Clippers Get:
Allen Iverson
Louis Williams

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