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Old 12-14-2006, 04:55 PM   #1
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If the Kings don't make a trade I think we're headed back to the lottery next year. This might not be a bad thing, we have some expirers so maybe Petrie can bring another piece in free agency(if I don't murder him first). Does anybody know of any prospects I should keep my eye on this college season? I'm trying to think positive here.
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Guys to watch:

Kevin Durant, Josh McRoberts, Brandan Wright, Al Horford, Joakim Noah(prolly wont suck enough to get him), and there's someone else I can't think of. All of those guys I listed could help and they're young shotblocking PFs.

Here's what would happen with our luck: we miss the POs by 1 game, get the #1 pick with a miracle, and Petrie would pick a perimeter player. His excuse for not grabbing Oden would be "he doesn't shoot well enough".
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Birthday:9/30/1988
NBA Postion:Small Forward
Class:Freshman
Ht:6-10Wt:220
College Team:Texas
Hometown:Suitland, MDHigh School:Montrose
NBA Comparison: Tracy McGrady

Strengths: His upside is out of this world ... This kid is not even begining to scratch the surface of his potential ... Looking at him you see his frame is going to fill out in 3-4 years ... Very fluid athlete with explosiveness ... He plays hard and is still learning the game ... Provided he works hard, Durant is going to be a special player in the league who will be able to do many different things on the court ... Not aggressive enough to be like KG, but skilled enough down the road to contribute like a AK47 or a Grant Hill... Developing inside outside game ... Can shoot the 3 and flush in transition ... It is scary to think of what he could be like if he puts on 15 lbs of muscle and developed a handle, a 2010 version of KG!

Weaknesses: His (lack of) stength is his major weakness, and he really needs to put on weight or he wont be able to do much in the NBA except shoot deep 3s or score in transition like Darius Miles of 4 years ago ... Needs to become more aggresive, develop more nastiness ... Still developing a game off the dribble ... Defensively he needs to move his feet better and keep his hands active on the ball ... Oak Hill is giving him the work ethic he will need in the long run, since he most likely wont be going to college ...
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Josh McRoberts
Birthdate: 2/28/87
NBA Position: Power Forward
College: Duke
Class: Sophomore
Ht: 6-10
Wt: 240
Hometown: Carmel, IN
High School: Carmel
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NBA Comparison: Chris Webber (less athletic)

Strengths: As versatile as they come … A true inside outside threat ... Is equally adequate with his back to the basket or when facing up to the hoop ... Lefty has a solid mid range game with a reliable jumper that extends as far out as the three point line … A dunking machine. Will throw down any and every chance he has … Unlike most players Josh’s size, he can put the ball on the floor and shows tremendous court vision and a nice passing touch … Runs the floor well for a big man and always seems to be in the right place at the right time for monstrous putbacks … Always gives full effort and never takes plays off… Excellent rebounder due in large part to his aggressiveness … Very tough, a warriors mentality on the court … High basketball IQ guy who will make an immediate impact in Durham …

Weaknesses: Has good footwork but isn’t quick enough to play anywhere but the post at the next level … His foot speed and athleticism wont stand out on the next level ... Though he has incredible instincts and feel for the game having played as a guard early in his high school career, some of those attributes are lost because he lacks the quickness and foot speed to take the ball off the dribble on the next level ... Though he does have his moments blocking shots and making stops, he isn’t known as a defensive presence … Must become more disciplined defensively as he can be foul prone ...
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Birthday:10/5/1987
NBA Postion:Power Forward
Class:Freshman
Ht:6-10
Wt:210
College Team:North CarolinaHometown:Nashville, TNHigh School:Brentwood Acad.Team Site Profile

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NBA Comparison: Kevin Garnett

Strenghts: Has a tremedous wingspan which allows him to block shots and get rebounds most players his size could only dream of ... He has enormous potential. ... Has great hands and solid footwork... Has a good handle for a big guy, which enables him to rebound and take it coast to coast ... The game just comes very easy to him ... Truly a freak of nature in terms of athletic ability, agility and mobility, he simple has the ability to do anything and everything on the basketball court that he wants to do ... Runs the floor exceptionally well ... His permiter shot has shown nice improvement in the past year ...

Weaknesses: He still must put on a lot of weight ... Added strength and weight will give him more confidence to go inside and dunk on players and make shots with contact ... Though it's easy to be amazed at the things he can do, he will also leave you wondering "if", what if he played harder? What if he rebounded harder? ... Intensity and effort level need to improve ... His shot from outside needs major work, though it showed improvement in his senior year ... Increased strength will come in time but the sky's the limit for this guy if he pushes himself and gets pushed to be great ...
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Birthday:6/3/1986
NBA Postion:Power Forward
Class:Junior
Ht:6-9
Wt:245
College Team:Florida
Hometown:Puerto Plata, DRHigh School:Grand LedgeTeam Site Profile

Strengths: Long and athletic bigman ... Long arms and broad shoulders make him a great rebounder and an imposing defender ... Very active body ... Has a huge frame with outstanding wingspan ... A physical specimen type ... Has nice touch inside ... Hard working kid, who really wants to improve ... Very coachable ... Excels in the classroom ... Very mobile, can get out on the break very well for a 6-9 player ... Showing improvement on a daily basis ... Really has come a long way since arriving at Florida, and has already cracked the starting lineup ... Very even keeled, strong mentally ...

Weaknesses: Experience ... Still must fill out a lot, get much stronger ... Post skills are still very raw. He needs to develop better post moves, and specifically a go to move ... At this point he needs time and strength. He can get overwhelmed by bigger and stronger opponents ... Must stay focused, play consistently for 40 minutes ... Ball handling can improve ... Must develop consistency ... Must improve his free throw shooting ...

Notes: Son of former 7-1 NBA second round pick Tito Horford ... He is a native of the Dominican Republic and is fluent in Spanish ... Al Horford's Grand Ledge High School coach (Tony Sweet) on him: "Al had a great career at GL breaking several records at our school. He's a good student and a hard worker. Probably his biggest asset is his competitiveness and his desire to get better."
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Birthday:2/25/1985
NBA Postion:Power Forward
Class:Junior
Ht:6-11
Wt:230College Team:Florida
Hometown:New York, NYHigh School:Lawrenceville
Overall94NBA Comparison: Tyson Chandler (higher basketball IQ)

Strengths: Extremely long, fluid/mobile player who runs the court like a guard … For his size, Noah’s is a surprisingly solid ball handler … This becomes evident when he gets the ball in the high post and dribbles past his man for a lay-up … High energy player who plays games with great passion and intensity … Great lateral quickness which enables him to be an excellent help defender when the perimeter defense breaks down … Great motor, constantly moves without the ball in his hands trying to get open … Passing ability is top notch for a player at his position … Displays good touch around the basket … Excellent finisher in transition where he converts with ease … Offensively he has two crucial physical tools which will facilitate his back to the basket development: long arms and good hands … Thanks to his aggressive play, Noah does a good job of drawling fouls from the opposition … Tough minded kid who possess a warrior attitude in that he loves to compete and never backs down from physical play … Is a great rebounder who understands how to use his frame and long arms … Shows great body control as he is able to get knocked around and still finish … Despite being a junior, Noah has untapped potential …

Weaknesses: Upper body strength needs to improve which would benefit him in several ways. But it should be noted that his body type (narrow shoulders) suggests that he will never have much bulk ... Despite being a solid shot blocker, he bites on pump fakes far too easy and lacks timing … Picks up careless fouls due to his high energy level as he gets a little to aggressive … Still goes through periods where he doesn’t make the best decisions though not because of court intelligence but excess passion and intensity … Offensively Noah’s back to the basket game remains undeveloped … Would really benefit in working on his post footwork, a turnaround jumper, and a solid up and under move … Athletically he is not what one would call a superior athlete, gets everything though his strong will … Double teams can trouble him as he fails to read and react quickly enough … Lack of strength hurts him from setting up and getting good low post position …Below average mid-range shooter who lacks consistency and must continue to expand his range. The mechanics on his shooting form is something out of a horror movie, and even with a lot of work on it hasn’t shown much improvement (but he shoots free throws at a respectable clip) … There will be some concern about what his natural NBA position is …

Notes: Son of tennis legend Yannick Noah ... Was the driving force in Florida's 2006 National Championship run winning MVP of the tournament ... Turned down being a likely top 3 draft pick in the 2006 draft, returning to school to help the Gators attempt to repeat as champs and improve his game.
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Strengths: Plays with great energy and passion ... A fierce competitor, has the same drive to win as his tennis great father Yannick Noah ... Great leadership ability, inspires his teammates to raise their level of play ... Passes well from the high post, or when doubled inside ... His ability to create shots for others is rare for a big ... Has shown tremendous improvement from his freshman to sophomore season ... Incredibly long wing span allows him to get dunks and rebounds that most players could not ... A finesse player with good fluidity and agility in the open floor ... Touch is decent around the basket ... Free throw shooting has shown solid improvement ... Good shot blocker because of his length ... Raises his level of play in important games ... Still learning the game ...

Weaknesses: Struggles to fit an NBA position ... Lacks a great body for an interior player, adding strength is a big question mark ... Lacks the foot speed to play on the perimeter ... Doesn't have great offensive skills, gets most of his baskets in transition or rebounds ... Has no shot outside of 5 feet ... Needs to develop some inside moves ... Narrow shoulders makes adding weight to his frame difficult ... He is 227 pounds now and likely will max out around 235-240 ... Gets pushed out of the lane by much smaller players due to his lack of lower body strength ... His form on his shot is not always consistent, should work on his shot mechanics (they are easily correctable) ...
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Birthday:1/22/1988
NBA Postion:Center
Class:FreshmanHt:7-0
Wt:255
College Team:Ohio State
Hometown:Indianapolis, INHigh School:Lawrence
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NBA Comparison: David Robinson

Strenths: Incredibly fluid athlete for a 7 footer... Tremendous speed in the open court ... A center with his agility and talent comes along roughly every 8-10 years ... Extremely quick and explosive ... Enormous potential ... His game has improved significantly from his sophomore to junior seasons ... Starting to understand how to use his body and how dominant he can be ... Big defensive presence, and a terrific shot blocker with great length, timing and instincts ... Excellent rebounder ... Soft touch around the basket ... Has developed a decent turnaround hook with his right hand ... Very good passer with nice court vision (averaged 3.7 assists per game as a junior) ... Quality kid with a great attitude ... Very coachable, listens and wants to improve ... Team player with a winners mentality ... Improving on a daily basis ... Decent free throw shooter at 64% but needs to and should improve upon it (improved considerably from 51% as a sophomore) ...

Weaknesses: Soft spoken. Very humble personality, which is a positive and a negative in that some would like to see him develop more of a swagger of confidence, but Duncan and Robinson were/are both silent (humble) assassins ... Needs to add more nastiness on the floor to dominate ... Still raw in terms of post moves, they are developing, but still have a ways to go ... He is so dominant on the high school level he hasn't needed to develop any range or post skills ... Doesn't have the ability to create offense for himself as he can overwhelm anyone he faces with his size and athleticism ... Still scores mostly on ally oops and put backs ... Has nice touch, but needs to develop a consistent mid range shot (ala Robinson) ... Strength wont be an issue for him ultimately, but right now he needs to add muscle to his upper body and legs ... Almost too unselfish ...

Outlook: The top candidate for the number 1 pick in the 2007 draft, one year removed from high school ... A year of college should give him a great stepping stone for the NBA.
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Birthday:2/17/1987
NBA Postion:Center
Class:Freshman
Ht:7-3
Wt:265
College Team:UConnHometownar Es Salaam, TanzaniaHigh School:Cypress Comm.
Overall93NBA Comparison: Dikembe Mutombo (stronger body)

Strengths: For his immense size, Thabeet is an above average runner of the court … Does a great job of getting initial post position by using his body wide and sealing off his defender … Has soft hands. Rarely does he bobble passes and catches with few problems no matter the distance or speed of the pass … Shot blocking skills are top shelf … His explosiveness: getting off the floor quickly is mind blowing for a player his size ... Physically he has all the tools needed to continue with his long arms and first-rate timing … Unlike many young players he has learned to be a very patient shot blocker that rarely bites on pump fakes … Has yet to even scratch the surface of his vast potential … Although still learning the game, he doesn’t have a lot of bad habits … Very coachable in that whatever flaws he has in his game can be easily corrected … Shows solid outlet passing ability which is rare for a player with his level of experience … Although his post moves are unrefined, Thabeet has shown reasonably good touch … Above average defensive rebounder … Shows decent upper body strength, which should greatly improve and great athleticism for his size…

Weaknesses: Offensively Thabeet remains raw and undeveloped … Struggles to maintain his position in the post where he tends to get rooted out by smaller players … Although as mentioned above he is an above average runner on the court he still could improve his foot speed … Like many players his age, Thabeet’s post footwork is a work in progress although to his credit it has improved since his breakout Global Games performance … Should continue to learn how to block out more aggressively when working for the offensive rebound … Movements are a bit mechanical but this doesn’t seem to affect his coordination right now … Free throw shooting is below average, however he does show good form and confidence with repetition he should become solid before the season is over … Back to the basket skills are in need of improvement … Not much of a face-up player … Offensive court awareness is evolving but still is a few steps behind. This is evident when he is finishing around the basket as he loses where he is in relation to the basket or rushes his shot …
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Strengths: A mountain of a player, he’s a legit 7-3 with a big body and good mobility … He’s still raw offensively but has the frame and body strength to easily put on another 20-30 pounds and retain his mobility … It is rare to find a player with his type of size, speed and strength combination … Has good coordination … Decent touch on his shot, especially considering the amount of time he has been playing organized basketball, so it can improve … At worst he will be a force inside as a rebounder and shot blocker …

Weaknesses: Still very new to the game, needs flying time … Offensively he is still very raw, must learn to play in the post … He’s a few years away from being ready to contribute on the NBA level …Right now his leg strength is ahead of his upper body strength … From Tanzania (birth records are suspect in African countries) so there is some question about his true age. Scouts say he “looks young” but realistically he could be anywhere from 18-22 …

Notes: Considered a possible lottery pick based on his size and athleticism … Thabeet opened the eyes of NBA scouts at the Global Games in Dallas, Texas in June of 2006 … He played last year at Cyress Communty Christian in Houston, Texas. Right now he’s a project, but with a huge ceiling … Said one scout, “He’s getting better every day. If he gets eligible, he’s one year and out at UConn and I’m calling it right now, he’s a top 10 pick.”

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Birthday:10/27/1987
NBA Postion:Power Forward
Ht:7-0
Wt:230
Int Team:Guangdong TigersHometown:Shenzhen, ChinaHigh School:Shen Zhen City

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NBA Comparison: Pau Gasol

Strengths: Good ball handler who has no problem taking opposing defenders off the dribble … Great finisher around the basket as he is capable of making some impressive dunks on the break … Fundamentally sound player with a decent basketball IQ and court awareness … Rarely does Jianlian force the issue, instead he let’s the game come to him … Unlike many players his size, he is a great free throw shooter …Runs the floor especially well considering his size ... His perimeter shooting is very impressive as he can stretch the defense out to 18-20 feet comfortably … While he doesn’t own many back to the basket moves, Jianlian possesses a consistent turnaround jumper in the post … Does a great job of using his long body and athleticism to make an impact on the boards … Passes out of double teams well due to his court vision and awareness … Excels in an open court offense that promotes fast breaks thanks to his mobility and leaping ability … Rarely gets intimidated when physical play occurs … Although he has been on the NBA draft radar for quite some time, and may be a few years older than his listed age, he appears to still have considerable upside … Defensively he is a solid help defender due to his lateral quickness and wingspan … Possesses quick hands that can disrupt passing lanes …

Weaknesses: There is some concern as to what position he will play in the NBA: He lacks the upper body strength and the back to the basket moves at power forward and is a bit long and rangy for the three … Needs to improve his three point shooting to play minutes to be effective at SF … Despite his vast improvement, Jianlian needs to continue to develop his upper body strength … At this point of his career, he’s more comfortable facing the basket than with his back to the basket … Although he doesn’t shy away from physical contact he can get disrupted with rough post play … Struggles to maintain his position in the low post as opposing defenders tend to push him out … Defensively he will not be the huge shot blocking presence that he is in the China, due to his timing and the speed of the NBA game … Has a habit of putting the ball on the floor to achieve rhythm instead of keeping the ball high away from opposing guards …. Confidence can wavier in games when he’s struggling to score … Although listed as being born in 1987 many within China place him between 1985-1986 … Doesn’t always play defensive with great intensity, he won’t be able to get away with it in the NBA …
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Strengths: The next big prospect from China after Yao Ming ... A 7 footer with the agility and coordination of a much smaller player, plus explosiveness rarely found in Asian players ... Has an American style of game, very quick and athletic ... Loves the transition game and gets a lot of highlight dunks ... In the CBA, Yi has made a solid transition from prospect to star player becoming the MVP of his CBA champion Guangdong Tigers team ... Smart player, makes good decisions showing improvement on the offensive end of the floor ... Can face the basket from 12-15 feet and get by bigger players off the dribble as well as knock down shots out to 18 feet with consistency ... Has good shooting mechanics and overall fundamentals ... Seems to have modeled his fadeaway jumpshot after Dirk Nowitzki, and though it's not as accurate, it is extremely tough to defend ... Has good touch around the basket and shows good creativity on the drive ... Plays with solid aggressiveness, competitive player with a high level of energy and intensity ... Grabs rebounds well using his leaping ability ... Solid defensively as a shot blocker, with good timing and possesses good lateral quickness ... Has a fiery side(unlike Yao), if he gets elbowed he will get payback. But by no means is he a hothead or looking for trouble, he's just a competitior ...

Weaknesses: He's a tweener, but a "good tweener" ... Doesn't fit a position perfectly as he's more of a finesse player and too big to play the 3 position, but his combination of size and versatility makes him a very intriguing ... At times can be too laid back on the floor, so raising his intensity level is important ... Has good shooting mechanics but has a slow release... Could become a good shooter but probably never a great shooter ... His hands are a little weak, making it easier for opponents to poke the ball away (Yao Ming has the same problem) ... Needs to continue to gain upper body and arm strength, without losing any quickness ... If he adds additional strength, he will be able to fight for rebounds better ...He has no problems now, but it will be an adjustment to the speed and strength of the NBA ... Also like Yao the adjustment to a much longer season will take time ... The general consensus in China is that he is actually born in 1984 or 1985, meaning he wouldn't enter the NBA until he's actually 25 years of age if he stays in China until his 1987 draft year ... His game has matured to where he needs better competition to push him. He is a superior athlete in China, and lacks a great competition level, so his game is deteriorating to an extent staying in China in such crucial development years ...

Notes: Averaged: 20.5 PPG, 57.41 FG %, 75.08 FT%, 9.6 RPG, 1.3 BPG, 1.2 APG, 2.0 SPG in the 2005-06 season. Flirted with the idea of declaring for the NBA draft, but chose to stay with his Guangdong Tigers team and Chinese Olympic team. Has proven himself against American players in junior competitions (playing well at the ABCD camp in New Jersey) ... Did not perform well at the 2005 Hoops Summit game ...
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Said one scout, “He’s getting better every day. If he gets eligible, he’s one year and out at UConn and I’m calling it right now, he’s a top 10 pick.”
Damn! Really going out a limb with that bold prediction!

Oden a top ten pick?! Never would have guessed it.



My insider sources have told me that Petrie has crafted a master plan to win the lottery and land oden. I bet you didn't know this but the AI trade request, the new ball scandal, and the Democrats winning the election were all part of his plan. And you guys were making suggesting he lost his touch! I can't believe some of the stuff on this board.

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Bump - for those who didn't get a chance to read.
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Haha I forget all about this. I think they missed the comparison for Durant/Wright though. I compare Durant to a Dirk/Garnett hybrid I guess but really he'll end up being one of those guys who people compare players too. His skill set is pretty unique because it combines shooting ability, a post game, rebounding skills, athleticism, height, ball handling, shot blocking, and passing.

I think Wright is more similar to Amare. He's a good shotblocker and his athleticism is crazy. His height is closer to Amare(6'9''-6'10'') while Garnett is 6'11''. He's a decent passer and working on his ball handling but he can't(yet) do that like Garnett. He's got some inside moves but from what I've seen he uses his athleticism a lot when he has to score, like Amare. In the NBA he's one of those guys who would love a pass first point guard.
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Man, Durant has the potential to be my favorite NBA player when he gets drafted. I just wish we could get him, I'm going to have to watch Wright because I haven't seen him yet.
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Wright plays tomorrow against Duke I think. Oden's on ESPN right now. Honestly Wright was more impressive in the beginning, now it seems more like he's the 3rd option on that team because of Hansbrough and Ty Lawson. I still like Wright a ton though, he's got a freakish wingspan(7'4'') and blocks shots. I love his athleticism. He really reminds me of Amare.
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