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Old 12-23-2006, 03:02 PM   #1
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not another rehashed decision. but rather, this question is about practice.


i saw an infomercial for "Steve Nash Basketball" in which he kicks the basketball around like a soccer ball then "kicks in" the layup and he says all it takes is practice



watching Steve play. it's quite mesmerizing. whereas Jason Kidd creates off of ball movement and finds his teammates who seek to get open and he can make the most difficult of passes, Steve Nash forces the issue and creates something out of nothing.

moreover, Nash's 3 point ability is seemingly automatic and his little spin and pivot moves are also seeminly automatic. Dantoni even criticized him for not shooting enough.


his skills are so apparent that it gets me thinking:

why isn't hte rest of the NBA like this?


Nash must be an extremely hard worker who loves to practice.


so is this

1) Nash practices and works hard.

2) much of the rest of hte league is lazy and relies mainly on talent to win play?
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Old 12-23-2006, 03:17 PM   #2
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hard work has always been the difference between stars and superstars. Just look at the debate about Bargnani this season. Many Dirk fans will tell you that Andrea has a lot of the skills to be as good as Dirk, but it was the insane amount of work and practice that Dirk put into his game that made him the level he is now (conincidentally much of that work was done side-by-side with Nash).

The same goes for many players that have come before them, such as the Tim Duncans, Michael Jordans, Larry Birds of the world. What makes a great player is undertsnading their physcial talents and limitations and practicing to refine those things which they are good at, and learning how to make up for the flaws in their game as well. Just like in music, or art, or business or engineering, hard work and an intense competitve spirit are what separates a good player from a great one, not just natural ability.
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Old 12-23-2006, 04:15 PM   #3
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not another rehashed decision. but rather, this question is about practice.


i saw an infomercial for "Steve Nash Basketball" in which he kicks the basketball around like a soccer ball then "kicks in" the layup and he says all it takes is practice



watching Steve play. it's quite mesmerizing. whereas Jason Kidd creates off of ball movement and finds his teammates who seek to get open and he can make the most difficult of passes, Steve Nash forces the issue and creates something out of nothing.

moreover, Nash's 3 point ability is seemingly automatic and his little spin and pivot moves are also seeminly automatic. Dantoni even criticized him for not shooting enough.


his skills are so apparent that it gets me thinking:

why isn't hte rest of the NBA like this?


Nash must be an extremely hard worker who loves to practice.


so is this

1) Nash practices and works hard.

2) much of the rest of hte league is lazy and relies mainly on talent to win play?


What do you mean when you say his three point ability is automatic?
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What do you mean when you say his three point ability is automatic?

He's automatic behind the 3 point line.

Doesn't miss
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Nash practices and focuses on fundamentals, along with his huge basketball IQ where-as most of the league is full of pure athletes who have very little basketball IQ, rely on talent and are lazy
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Nash practices and focuses on fundamentals, along with his huge basketball IQ where-as most of the league is full of pure athletes who have very little basketball IQ, rely on talent and are lazy


How did he get such a hugh basketball IQ?

How many hours a day do you think he practices?
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He's automatic behind the 3 point line.

Doesn't miss


He does miss sometimes though.
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He does miss sometimes though.

Of Course but it's very rare
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well obviously he misses, but he's as good a 3-point shooter as there has been in the league in years. If I were to say someone is Automatic from inside the paint, that doesn't mean he shoots 100%, it's just an expression.
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How did he get such a hugh basketball IQ?

How many hours a day do you think he practices?

Well, he was tutored by Sam Cassell early in his career if I'm not mistaken and then hours and hours and hours of watching film and studying the game really helped him. I bet he has watched a ton of John Stockton film, probably more then anyone has. Practice wise, during the offseason I think he chips in about 3/4 hours of practice and during the season, it varies on what the schedule is. Such as do they have 4 games in 5 nights or 2 games in the entire week.
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automatic means if your defense fails and you leave him wide open, more times than not he will punish you. and he punishes you many more times than he misses so it seems as if he does not miss.
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Well, he was tutored by Sam Cassell early in his career if I'm not mistaken and then hours and hours and hours of watching film and studying the game really helped him. I bet he has watched a ton of John Stockton film, probably more then anyone has. Practice wise, during the offseason I think he chips in about 3/4 hours of practice and during the season, it varies on what the schedule is. Such as do they have 4 games in 5 nights or 2 games in the entire week.


Wow. That's insane. That's dedication.

When you say hours and hours of film, do you mean in just one day. For a whole day, he would watch nothing but film?
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much of the rest of hte league is lazy and relies mainly on talent to win play?

not the whole league, but about half, yeah.

lots of players never improve their game from the time they are drafted.
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not everyone naturally has the coordination to be a Nash-level shooter. in fact very few players do. nobody practices more than Kobe and he's only at 85 percent right? everyone has a ceiling.
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