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Old 03-15-2012, 05:13 PM   #1
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Default Golden State Warriors owner in a bit of a jam over Monta Ellis trade

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Fallout from the Monta Ellis trade? (Or as they call it in Warriorland, the Andrew Bogut trade.)

Well, a cold front has settled in around Joe Lacob.

"My fiancee is mad at me," co-owner Lacob said, hanging out in the hallway off the court before Wednesday night's game. "She hasn't talked to me in two days."

Is he kidding?

"There she is," Lacob said. "Ask her."

His fiancee brushed past without answering. She looked unhappy.

Lacob's fiancee had formed a friendship with Ellis' wife. When you trade a guy, you break some hearts.

It was Lacob's first big trade as Warriors boss and he said he didn't pull the trigger casually. General manager Larry Riley came to Lacob Tuesday with the vote of the team's advisory board - Riley, assistant GM Bob Myers, Kirk Lacob (Joe's son and director of basketball operations), director of player personnel Travis Schlenk and uber-adviser Jerry West.

The vote was 5-0 in favor of the trade. Still, Lacob hesitated.

"I was probably the last holdout," he said. "Part of that was to test the resolve of those guys."

Now Lacob has to sweat out the resolve of his fiancee.

I wonder if the decision process would have been any different if Ellis had been selected to play in the All-Star Game.

Warriors' fan reaction is split, although Lacob admits the hate-the-trade faction probably is the majority. Imagine the outrage if the Warriors had just traded away their first All-Star since Latrell Sprewell.

Fifteen seasons without a Warriors' All-Star.

This was Jerry West's first big decision as a Warrior, too.

It would have been very interesting if West had been the lone dissenter. Would that have caused Lacob to call off the deal? If so, what would that have done to the front-office chemistry?

West casting a no vote on Bogut would be an unlikely scenario. As a player, West experienced years of frustration losing to the Celtics because the Lakers had no legitimate center. Then West finally won a title, with Wilt Chamberlain in the post, and presided over two dynasties - the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Dynasty and the Shaq O'Neal Dynasty.

Build a contending team without a really good center? That's not a recipe West would likely sign off on.

Lacob said with a straight face, "I'd like to make the playoffs still."

He won't get much support on that from the fans. Even in a fantasy scenario, the Warriors sneaking into the playoffs, they get blown out immediately. They need to have a draft pick in the top seven, or they lose it to Utah.

However, the truly delusional can point to the Jeremy Lin scenario. The Knicks lost their two biggest stars (temporarily), Lin was forced into action and led a band of nobodies on a valiant winning run, which might still be going on if the big stars had stayed away.

But how often does that kind of thing happen? Apparently once every 65 years or so.

Four years ago, a very-high-placed Warrior insider said Ellis was "a soft player." Too frail, not big on contact, not eager to play hurt.

There was truth to that, but Ellis came here as a teenager, and he grew, and he hardened. I doubt anyone considers him soft now.

He did cause the Warriors some embarrassment - with the moped incident, the declaration that he and Stephen Curry couldn't play together (which was a true statement, but very undiplomatic, and might have crushed the spirit of a rookie less mature than Curry), and with the sexual harassment suit.

Riley stressed that stuff had no bearing on the trade.

And it's not like the Warriors are getting a choirboy in return, in Stephen Jackson, a.k.a. Stackjack.

Jackson is recognized as one of the league's leading divas.

"We consider him a good guy," Lacob said.

Of course Lacob wasn't the boss when Stackjack wheedled a fat contract extension out of the Warriors then demanded a trade.

Jackson is an interesting guy to have around, though, and the Warriors' locker room will be a livelier place.

And maybe Jackson can even find a way to bring Andris Biedrins back to life.

Biedrins played 19 minutes Wednesday, had three rebounds and zero points. He did take a shot, was fouled, went to the line and clanged both shots with line drives Buster Posey would admire.

Biedrins was given a third try, due to a lane violation. Clang. He's 1-for-9 for the season.

That ref either had a kind heart or a dark sense of humor.

Business is business.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:14 PM   #2
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Default Re: Golden State Warriors owner in a bit of a jam over Monta Ellis trade

So Monta was f*cking the Boss' wife.

Now it makes sense
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Default Re: Golden State Warriors owner in a bit of a jam over Monta Ellis trade

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So Monta was f*cking the Boss' wife.

Now it makes sense

That and possibly a three some involved.

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Old 03-15-2012, 06:54 PM   #4
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Default Re: Golden State Warriors owner in a bit of a jam over Monta Ellis trade

Tomorrow nights game is going to be great with Monta playing against the Warriors

tanking the season and trading away a superstar talented player in Monta for the 8th pick and a headcase, plus injury prone big to form a tandem of the 2 most injury prone players in the league?

those 5 owners are real dumb. really hope that 8th pick is worth it for their sake.

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Default Re: Golden State Warriors owner in a bit of a jam over Monta Ellis trade

So, hes trying to run a business, and she acts like a baby.


Good deal there.
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Default Re: Golden State Warriors owner in a bit of a jam over Monta Ellis trade

I liked Monta but IMO Warriors did themselves a solid acquiring Bogut. Most likely than not he's gonna get healthy. If he doesn't then this trade is obviously a big time bust but can't call it till it becomes a reality.

Also might be a plus for Curry's development with Monta gone. Same with Klay Thompson, who Marc Jackson seems to be really big on.

Edit: Kinda funny how Lacob talked on the upsides on having S-Jax around, then trades him like two days later.

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