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Old 08-10-2012, 04:05 PM   #1
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Default Vice Presidential Pick and the STATE of the race

aka The Big Ass 2012 political thread part three.

Just over two weeks left before the convention and less than 90 days to the election. We are still waiting Romeny's VP pick. (By the way apparently all the news anchors have had to cancel their August vacations because they don't want to miss this.)

Romney had a bad july and that is starting to show up in the polls. Obama is on a slight uptick from last month.

Obama is still focusing on Romney taxes and trying to neutralize his weakness on the economy by trying to have voters ask themselves who is more on your side.

In reaction to this Romney has started to focus cultural issues. His new ads address welfare and religious freedom (that last ad has Pope John II in it).

Meanwhile Romney is still having trouble with the conservative wing of his party (especially the media wing). In fact, another flare up occurred this week that has some media conservatives calling on him to fire his spokeswoman, Andrea Saul. Some the headlines from google news.

"Saul Just Gave The Obama Campaign A Big Fat Wet Kiss"

"Romney Needs To Tell Andrea Saul, “You're Fired!”

"Andrea Saul single handedly kills Mitt Romney's hopes of victory"
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:11 PM   #2
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why a new thread?
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:28 PM   #3
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why a new thread?

Just getting ready for the VP pick. Making the thread easier to read, this way folks don't have address old issues.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:53 PM   #4
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How long is it typically before the candidates announce their VPs? Your initial post made it seem like it takes place before the final countdown towards the election starts.
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How long is it typically before the candidates announce their VPs? Your initial post made it seem like it takes place before the final countdown towards the election starts.

It takes place before the convention. We are about to enter the three month home stretch. GOP convention starts aug 27. Dems start on Sep 3.

Last year, the VP was right before the convention.

A lot of folks are thinking that if Romney wants to change the story, he make the pick next week.

Probably next thurs or friday and that way all the weekend media will be about him and the pick

I personally am wondering if any last second thinking is going on.

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Old 08-10-2012, 06:47 PM   #6
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It takes place before the convention.

Last year, was right before the convention.

A lot of folks are thinking that if Romney wants to change the story, he make the pick next week.

Probably next thurs or friday and that way all the weekend media will be about him and the pick

I personally am wondering if any last second thinking is going on.
Okay that's what I was assuming. Just making sure.

The sad part about Romney is, is that more and more shit is just gonna keep getting piled on until the election.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:14 PM   #7
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aka The Big Ass 2012 political thread part three.

Just over two weeks left before the convention and less than 90 days to the election. We are still waiting Romeny's VP pick. (By the way apparently all the news anchors have had to cancel their August vacations because they don't want to miss this.)

Romney had a bad july and that is starting to show up in the polls. Obama is on a slight uptick from last month.

Obama is still focusing on Romney taxes and trying to neutralize his weakness on the economy by trying to have voters ask themselves who is more on your side.

In reaction to this Romney has started to focus cultural issues. His new ads address welfare and religious freedom (that last ad has Pope John II in it).

Meanwhile Romney is still having trouble with the conservative wing of his party (especially the media wing). In fact, another flare up occurred this week that has some media conservatives calling on him to fire his spokeswoman, Andrea Saul. Some the headlines from google news.

"Saul Just Gave The Obama Campaign A Big Fat Wet Kiss"

"Romney Needs To Tell Andrea Saul, “You're Fired!”

"Andrea Saul single handedly kills Mitt Romney's hopes of victory"


Mate, focusing on who the president will be is nothing more than a glamorous distraction from the mundane yet important details of local and national policy that most Americans are too stupid and uninterested to pay attention to. The Presidential race is nothing more than a political sporting event that allows people to choose sides and bicker, hoping for the mindless validation that will come with winning something they actually know very little about. This of course is completely unproductive, but intellectually its the ceiling for what most Yanks, including you, KevinNyc, are capable of.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:18 PM   #8
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The Romney team let it be known a while ago that they didn't want their VP pick to make waves. Thinking of the Sarah Palin explosion and flameout from 4 years ago, they didn't want to a make a mistake, and leaked they were going to pick "a boring white guy." Yes. they used those words. If they did that, it would either (U.S. Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio and former Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota)

However, conservatives in recent weeks have been trying to get Romney not to play it safe.
Moreoever, they want Romney to pick a movement conservative, because they still have their doubts about Romney being bona fide and they want to him to pledge fealty again. Their guy is Paul Ryan.
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In rallying around Mr. Ryan, a champion of cutting government spending and reining in the costs of programs like Medicare and Medicaid, conservatives are calling for Mr. Romney to select someone who can push their fiscal agenda, but they also are setting the stage for a possible letdown on the right if Mr. Romney chooses someone else in his race against President Obama. A strongly worded Wall Street Journal editorial on Thursday urged Mr. Romney to pick Mr. Ryan, saying he “best exemplifies the nature and stakes of this election.”

The editorial follows a fresh wave of public pressure from other conservative outlets for Mr. Romney to erase doubts about his commitment to conservative causes — an issue that has dogged Mr. Romney since his days campaigning as a liberal Republican for the Senate in Massachusetts

The Weekly Standard says (these guys were big, big Palin fans and pushed her on Romney)
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Go bold, Mitt! Pick Paul Ryan, the Republican party’s intellectual leader, the man who’s laid out the core of the post-Obama policy agenda and gotten his colleagues in Congress to sign on to it.

When the Wall Street Journal came out for Paul Ryan , they said Romney will lose if he didn't pick him.

So when the pick gets announced we'll know. If Romney still felt the need to sure up the right wing of his base, he'll pick Ryan, if not, it's one of the more boring guys.

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I'm not so sure the swing voters the Repubs need are going to like Ryan very much.
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I'm not so sure the swing voters the Repubs need are going to like Ryan very much.
yeah, he's kind of a crazy choice which is why he Romney does pick him, it really shows his motives.
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If they couldn't find a Presidential Candidate that excited them how are they going to pick a VP candidate that gets people enthused?
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yeah, he's kind of a crazy choice which is why he Romney does pick him, it really shows his motives.


Mate why is it you avoid discussion on the merit of policies, yet always attempt to wax political about parties and politicians? I've noticed that your obvious political philosophies and 'principles' are easier to poke logical holes in than a balloon, so you rarely state them explicitly or have discussion about policy. Instead you are completely consumed with partisan competition, essentially attacking republican personalities or party generalities as a means to compensate for your lack of non partisan perspective.

Youre a bloody wanker mate. You are the reason your country is switlin the toilet bowl. You do nothin but selfishly play pretend Robin Hood, harping in ideologies that let you get to be Mr. Popular and Mr Saves the Day.

For all your political posting, you dont discuss anythig meaningful (by design) but rather emphasize what is of little consequence in order to score 'victories' by associating people who support certain ideas with the ideas themselves, even tho theyre seperate.

Youre a bloody f a ggot mate.
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He will make the pick tomorrow morning. Rob Portman, Paul Ryan, and Tim Pawlenty are the finalists. All 3 are from battleground states.
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If Ryan gets the nod, then this has to be the most handsomest ticket in History!
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If the cold-hearted and ruthless Ryan is the Veep, then it is truly Christmas in August for Democrats!
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