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Old 02-05-2013, 01:31 AM   #1
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Default The Empire Strikes Back

Karl Rove and the establishment Republican Party money-bags form counter-insurgency group to hunt down Tea Party candidates.

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The biggest donors in the Republican Party are financing a new group to recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the party’s efforts to win control of the Senate.
The group, the Conservative Victory Project, is intended to counter other organizations that have helped defeat establishment Republican candidates over the last two election cycles. It is the most robust attempt yet by Republicans to impose a new sense of discipline on the party, particularly in primary races.

“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” said Steven J. Law, the president of American Crossroads, the “super PAC” creating the new project. “We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”

The effort would put a new twist on the Republican-vs.-Republican warfare that has consumed the party’s primary races in recent years. In effect, the establishment is taking steps to fight back against Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations that have wielded significant influence in backing candidates who ultimately lost seats to Democrats in the general election.

I wonder if Roger Ailes knew about this when he decided to kick Sarah Palin to the curb.

Should be fun.

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Old 02-05-2013, 02:07 AM   #2
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Default Re: The Empire Strikes Back

There will have a bigger Hill to climb in 2016.

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Message to the Republican Party: be afraid, be very afraid.

Hillary Clinton stands atop of the Democratic 2016 scrum, set to resume where Bill left off. A second Clinton candidacy would likely put the white vote in play and jeopardize the GOP’s dominance in the Old Confederacy. Recent polls put Hillary ahead of possible Republican challengers in vote-rich Texas and in Kentucky, home of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Tea Party favorite Rand Paul.

...In 1992 Bill Clinton came within 1 point of winning a plurality of white voters. He came within 3 points in 1996. No Democratic candidate has since come that close. Indeed, Barack Obama garnered less than two in five white votes against a hapless Mitt Romney. To top it off, Clinton also tied the Republicans in the South in 1996.

I doubt the Republicans will lose Texas, but those numbers have to have them worried, but the idea that Clinton will do better among white voters is very real. Conversely Clinton would have to worry about a drop in voter turn out with black voters. Also Clinton is probably enjoying her highest poll numbers right now. No way Texas votes for her once talk-radio and all the other Republican attack options have her in their sights.

Biden vs Clinton is going to make for a fun time too.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:26 AM   #3
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fun as in face-palmy fun?

so what do you think about the new voting distribution methods republican congresses are trying to pass across the battleground states?

i'm not in to this stuff nearly as much as you and the others, here, but seems like it could throw a couple monkeys and a wrench into what might otherwise have been a solid democratic win in 2016.
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:24 AM   #4
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Fun as in sport. I mean if both Biden and Hillary run then Obama's in a bit of a spot there. Also considering how much energy the Republican media establishment put into propping up the authenticity of the Tea Party and now they are going to have to take them down, man that catfight is going to be fun to watch. The recent history of the Republican Party is just amazing. I love how they have abandoned their leaders from just a few short years ago, Tom Delay, George Bush and very, very shortly Mitt Romney have been flushed down the memory hole. All sorts of things that started under Bush, they could blame on Obama once he got in. The prime example is the deficit and the debt, they didn't really shout too much about it going up under Bush, but all hell broke loose under Obama.

The new voter regulations are absolutely undemocratic and completely shameless, so much so that once they started getting publicity, Republicans started publicly backing away from them because they know they will be a public relations nightmare. I also don't think rural votes count more than urban votes would hold up in court. It's also a weapon that could be used against them. If Texas were to split up its electoral votes, that would be a nightmare for Republicans.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:08 AM   #5
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Hillary Clinton?

She's done such a good job

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Default Re: The Empire Strikes Back

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There will have a bigger Hill to climb in 2016.



I doubt the Republicans will lose Texas, but those numbers have to have them worried, but the idea that Clinton will do better among white voters is very real. Conversely Clinton would have to worry about a drop in voter turn out with black voters. Also Clinton is probably enjoying her highest poll numbers right now. No way Texas votes for her once talk-radio and all the other Republican attack options have her in their sights.

Biden vs Clinton is going to make for a fun time too.
If Hilary runs in 2016, I don't see Biden running. He doesn't have a chance to beat her.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:54 AM   #7
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Hilary's gonna have another "accident" at home between now and then.
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:00 PM   #8
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And why does accident need quotes?
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Why indeed? Just stirring the pot, lol.
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They have no one but themselves to blame for the rise of the lunatic teabagger fringe. But at least they are attempting to rectify their mistake.
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