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Old 07-19-2007, 03:41 AM   #1
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Default Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

It makes more sense, particulary if you sign a player to a long term deal in his prime which will take him to the end of his career. The player will earn the most money when he is most effective and as his player value declines so will his monetary impact on the salary cap.

Are teams not allowed to do this or do players force teams to offer contracts which appreciate in value?
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:47 AM   #2
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It makes more sense, particulary if you sign a player to a long term deal in his prime which will take him to the end of his career. The player will earn the most money when he is most effective and as his player value declines so will his monetary impact on the salary cap.

Are teams not allowed to do this or do players force teams to offer contracts which appreciate in value?
Teams can front load contracts meaning they make the most money in the first year then it steadly decreases over time. It's what Chicago did with Ben Wallace and Kirk Hinrich.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:10 AM   #3
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

Thanks, yeah Hinrich earns 11 mil this year and depreciates to 8 mil in 2011.

I would definately encourage this sort of contract its like freeing up some space each year whilst not losing anyone.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:37 AM   #4
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

David West is another example, I believe.
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

There's basically 3 ways a contract can be made (very, VERY simplified explanation):

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Back

Base is they get paid X amount of dollars per year. The amount stays the same every year.

Front is where they pay more money in the early years of the contract, and pay less in the latter years of the contract.

Back is where they pay less money in the early years of the contract, and pay more in the latter years of the contract.

The Bulls are doing this currently, by signing some guys to front loaded contracts and others to back loaded contracts. That way they balance out, instead of all the contracts increasing at the end and killing the team's payroll.

I would think (and I'm no GM, though I could do better than some!), that you would sign an aging vet to a front-loaded contract, so they are getting paid the most while they are still able to contribute. Likewise, rookie contracts are back loaded contracts, because it's expected they will improve their game over the years, thus "earning" their extra pay.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:50 AM   #6
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

I love frontloading all my contracts in NBA 2K7.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:52 AM   #7
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

^^Base contracts are tough to utilize because most players dont want to except the fact their gonna make 6.5 million every year for 5 years even if they do improve
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

I generally only play one season with a team, and I have zero interest in raising up some generic rookie scrub, so I usually backload my contracts and trade away my picks to get good players from the computer controlled teams.

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Francisco Elson (Yeah I know, but he came cheap from the Spurs)

I also ditched all of the overpaid scrubs in lopsided trades. No more Kwame, V-Rad or Mihm! Just at the salary cap (not even close to the luxury cap) and undefeated into the second round of the playoffs thus far on Superstar.

But I digress...



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Old 07-19-2007, 11:56 AM   #9
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

Unless they are lazy scrubs and just want to get paid, even if they phone it in.

Lots of players come to mind...

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Old 07-19-2007, 12:07 PM   #10
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I generally only play one season with a team, and I have zero interest in raising up some generic rookie scrub, so I usually backload my contracts and trade away my picks to get good players from the computer controlled teams.

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Francisco Elson (Yeah I know, but he came cheap from the Spurs)

I also ditched all of the overpaid scrubs in lopsided trades. No more Kwame, V-Rad or Mihm! Just at the salary cap (not even close to the luxury cap) and undefeated into the second round of the playoffs thus far on Superstar.

But I digress...

I usually take the Kings, get rid of everyone but maybe Artest, Martin, and Garcia. I stock up on expirers and sign a bunch of front loading contracts.

So I get 1 or 2 stars from FA, draft 2 years worth of good lottery picks, and have a few original guys left over.

I'm a powerhouse within 4 years.
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

Doing a contract like this makes it more expensive for the team, and more valuable to the player. Generally the owners are smarter than the players, so it doesn't happen very often. Also, having a low ending amount to your contract prevents you from getting "more than the max" on your next contract, and a lot of players foolishly believe that they will be worth that much (like $16+ million a year).
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:56 PM   #12
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Default Re: Can Teams sign palyers to depreciating contracts?

Some GMs would also like backloaded contracts because you could trade the player during their last year or to and possibly get something decent back. And then you wouldn't be paying them at their highest point.
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