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Old 07-20-2007, 04:22 PM   #1
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Default Official #29 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

#28 - Gary Payton or “the Glove.” GP was first know as the kid who tossed Shawn Kemp opp after alley-opp. He is now known as one of the top PG defenders in NBA history. He made 9 straight All-NBA D-teams and has participated in 3 NBA Finals and has 2 Gold Medals.

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9 All-NBA Teams
1 Defensive Player of the Year Award
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ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pettit
16. John Havlicek
17. Karl Malone
18. George Mikan
19. David Robinson
20. Isiah Thomas
21. Charles Barkley
22. John Stockton
23. Bob Cousy
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Rick Barry
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26. Scottie Pippen
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Gary Payton

Let’s get into the ‘NUMBER 29’ spot ?


Some players to consider:


Walt Frazier
Elvin Hayes
Dolph Schayes
Dave Cowens
George Gervin
Willis Reed
Allen Iverson
Patrick Ewing



#28 Greatest Player Voting
Gary Payton = 10 votes
Willis Reed = 9 votes
Walt Frazier = 4 votes
Elvin Hayes = 4 votes
Allen Iverson = 2 votes
Jason Kidd = 2 votes
Patrick Ewing = 2 votes
Kevin Garnett = 1 vote
Kevin McHale = 1 vote
Adrian Dantley = 1 vote
Pete Maravich = 1 vote
Dirk Nowitzki = 1 vote


Official #28 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

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Old 07-20-2007, 04:25 PM   #2
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Willis Reed. Greatest Knicks player of all time.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:25 PM   #3
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:26 PM   #4
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Hmm...

I think I'll go with Jason Kidd this round. Mr. Triple Double. Led the Nets to back to back Finals. Too bad he had to meet the Shaq & Kobe Show from LA...

Who knows, he's still around, and still has a chance to win that elusive ring!
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:27 PM   #5
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Walt Frazier...
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:29 PM   #6
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Quote:
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Walt Frazier...
I second that for Frazier, know we he or Willis don't go in this time around. Pippen/Drexler/Payton over Frazier/Reed.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:30 PM   #7
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allen iverson
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:31 PM   #8
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:45 PM   #9
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Walt Frazier is my pick. He had excellent defense and was pretty good on offense too. I put him over Reed because he had a better FG% and Reed was a F/C. Frazier was an all rounded player who good at everything he did. My vote is for Frazier.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:45 PM   #10
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Elvin Hayes. For like the 4th time in a row.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:48 PM   #11
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Willis Reed gets my vote for this round.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:55 PM   #12
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Payton being over Hayes, Reed, and Ewing(combined with the fact Drexler, Stockton, and even Scottie are too) is just the type of thing to make me not care where it goes from here. Payton at his peak isnt even top 5 now and neither is Stockton or maybe Drexler and Scottie.

In no order...

Duncan
Kg
Lebron
Kobe
Dirk
Wade

All those players have a case to be over Drexler, Stockton, and Scottie as players though I can see situations where id take one or two of the old guys. And Nash im not even going into. I dont consider his MVPs really justified but it would be hard to argue he didnt peak higher than a few of these guys or on the same level.

And those are guys I grew up on. If I have any bias its towards them. In 96 Gary had a case for 8th or 9th best in the league behind:

Jordan
Shaq
Hakeem
Penny
Drob
Karl Malone
Scottie

And probably behind Ewing, Grant Hill, and Barkley. If his best was 99-02 as some believe he had a case for top 7 id say. Depending on exactly which year.

And gets top 30 all time over some MVPS who led up to 3 finals teams and won a title or two? People who were considered the equal(or close to it) of Kareem in his prime like Mcadoo? If you want to go by legacy then the guys like Reed and Hayes simply have ot be over these types to make it recently. By dominance....same thing applies. Only you would have to add a few more guys who peaked high but got wiped out by injury.

I think we passed the point where the legends left have what they did be well known enough to beat out constant campaigning for lesser more modern players.

Ewing would probably have been taken by every GM in the league over every player of the 80s and 90s taken from pick 22 on to now.

But the point where what you did and how good you were matters more than how well you are known and how hard you are fought for has passed.
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:03 PM   #14
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this thread has lost a lot of credibility with Scottie and GP so high...

Patrick Ewing is my vote
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Patrick Ewing- The Greatest Knicks ever.
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