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Old 07-20-2007, 09:38 PM   #1
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Default Should Jason Kidd get the starting point position on Team USA?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eam.usa/1.html

SI seems to think Kidd addresses the backcourt problems that the Nets suffer.

namely, his big frame plays well to the increased physical contact in FIBA. Chris Paul and Kirk Hinrich often were bullied around and forced into unnecessary turnovers.

sure his jumpshot may be streaky, but when you have Kobe on the team, all Kidd needs to do is to continue his triple double ways and push the ball. whether he actually scores 10 points is irrelevant on this team of All Stars. his rebounding know hows should slightly nullify the lack of dominant big men on the roster.


but overall, do you think Kidd should start? or Billups? or Hinrich/Williams?
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:39 PM   #2
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Default Re: Should Jason Kidd get the starting point position on Team USA?

I'd say Kidd because his game is so multifaceted. He plays good defense, plays the actual PG position, rebounds, and when needed can back down smaller guards in the post.

His decision making and experience takes the cake for me.
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Default Re: Should Jason Kidd get the starting point position on Team USA?

He may, probably. However, I don't expect him to play for more than 20 minutes, considering his age and the other competitive Point guards in the team.
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He may, probably. However, I don't expect him to play for more than half of the game, considering his age and the other competitive Point guards in the team.


of course, with this loaded roster, i doubt Kidd plays more than 20 of the 40 minutes per game.
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Default Re: Should Jason Kidd get the starting point position on Team USA?

No Billups? Against international talent, you need shooting and I'm sure Billups or even Deron can shoot better than Kidd. But, more than likely, Kidd will take it, just cause of his all around game.
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No Billups? Against international talent, you need shooting and I'm sure Billups or even Deron can shoot better than Kidd. But, more than likely, Kidd will take it, just cause of his all around game.

True shooting is necessary in the international game, which is why they finally built a team with some good shooters on it (Tayshaun, Kobe, Mike Miller, Redd)

I'm excited about this Team USA, finally bring some b-ball pride back to the greatest country EVER.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:07 PM   #7
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Default Re: Should Jason Kidd get the starting point position on Team USA?

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eam.usa/1.html

SI seems to think Kidd addresses the backcourt problems that the Nets suffer.

namely, his big frame plays well to the increased physical contact in FIBA. Chris Paul and Kirk Hinrich often were bullied around and forced into unnecessary turnovers.

sure his jumpshot may be streaky, but when you have Kobe on the team, all Kidd needs to do is to continue his triple double ways and push the ball. whether he actually scores 10 points is irrelevant on this team of All Stars. his rebounding know hows should slightly nullify the lack of dominant big men on the roster.


but overall, do you think Kidd should start? or Billups? or Hinrich/Williams?

It is certainly a tough question. With such a young team, Kidd's leadership and experience would be much appreciated in a starting role (to get things rolling, to say the least). However, I do not believe he should be playing significant minutes during the Qualifiers. If you remember, he started during the 03 Qualifiers, and split time 50-50 with Bibby. Handed out about an equal number of assists, but shot 36% from the field as opposed to Bibby's 60%. A point guard with a good shot does wonders in the FIBA game.

Billups and Hinrich both offer the youth, shooting, passing, and defense that is needed by Team USA. Kidd's intangibles and leadership should be reserved for those times when the opponents are on a run, or if the team is in a cold spell. Kidd certainly is the old wise man of this group, and Coach K needs to properly utilize his talent in the appropriate way.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:54 PM   #8
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Default Re: Should Jason Kidd get the starting point position on Team USA?

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eam.usa/1.html

SI seems to think Kidd addresses the backcourt problems that the Nets suffer.

namely, his big frame plays well to the increased physical contact in FIBA. Chris Paul and Kirk Hinrich often were bullied around and forced into unnecessary turnovers.

sure his jumpshot may be streaky, but when you have Kobe on the team, all Kidd needs to do is to continue his triple double ways and push the ball. whether he actually scores 10 points is irrelevant on this team of All Stars. his rebounding know hows should slightly nullify the lack of dominant big men on the roster.




but overall, do you think Kidd should start? or Billups? or Hinrich/Williams?

Chris Paul set a new Team USA standard for assist/to. He barely had any turnovers.

Also, I think this summers teams are easier for Team USA. They should win it all this summer. I don't know who their opponents would be in the semifinals or finals but the teams leading up to that may be easier than last summers teams.
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He should if his only competition is Paul and Hinrich. He just has too much experience to come off the bench.
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Chris Paul set a new Team USA standard for assist/to. He barely had any turnovers.

I love it when people who never bothered to watch any of the games automatically come to the defense of Paul and cite a single statline as their evidence...while being completely oblivious to his countless instances of poor decision making, inability to hit an outside shot, and being completely destroyed on the defensive end.

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I love it when people who never bothered to watch any of the games automatically come to the defense of Paul and cite a single statline as their evidence...while being completely oblivious to his countless instances of poor decision making, inability to hit an outside shot, and being completely destroyed on the defensive end.

I watched every single game. All I'm saying is he couldn't have been forced into THAT MANY unneccessary turnovers as VC is suggesting. No, his shooting wasn't all that last summer but I've also watched every single game this past NBA season and it was better than last summer.
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I watched every single game. All I'm saying is he couldn't have been forced into THAT MANY unneccessary turnovers as VC is suggesting.No, his shooting wasn't all that last summer but I've also watched every single game this past NBA season and it was better than last summer.

1. That is such bull**** and you know it. If you actually had, you would agree with the writer about Chris Paul, as it was painfully obvious and clear. Lousy defense, difficulty in getting the offense going, no ability to space the floor, unnecessary turnovers, as VC explained, must I go on and on?

2. Oh really, you watched every single one of Chris Paul's NBA games? Go figure. Second of all, Chris Paul isn't even playing on Team USA this summer because of surgery.
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1. That is such bull**** and you know it. If you actually had, you would agree with the writer about Chris Paul, as it was painfully obvious and clear.

2. Oh really, you watched every single one of Chris Paul's NBA games? Go figure. Second of all, Chris Paul isn't even playing on Team USA this summer because of surgery.


Dude what's with you? How you gonna sit up here and tell me that it's bull*** about what I watched? Are you serious? I watched every damn Team USA game last summer. Yes, I was up at 3 and 4 in the morning watching. I watch all Hornets games. I know he isn't playing this summer because of surgery. I didn't say otherwise. I'm only trying to make a point about the turnovers. I could care less what else you say about him in the Team USA games but he did NOT have many unnecessary turnovers.

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Dude what's with you? I watched every damn Team USA game last summer. Yes, I was up at 3 and 4 in the morning watching. I watch all Hornets games. I know he isn't playing this summer because of surgery. I didn't say otherwise. I'm only trying to make a point about the turnovers. I could care less what else you say about him in the Team USA games but he did NOT have many unforced turnovers.

I always love these Paul homers. So desperate to defend their point guard even when they didn't even bother to watch his FIBA games. Trying to defend his play by stating that "he could've have had that many turnovers" while simply citing a pathetic statistic to back them up. Maybe you didn't see him get murdered on his way to the basket, or how he got completely beat on the defensive end that led to f&cking open jumper after open jumper.No mention of his overall poor play, his deficiencies as a FIBA point guard, and his numerous costly mistakes that helped lead Team USA down the drain.
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I always love these Paul homers. So desperate to defend their point guard even when they didn't even bother to watch his FIBA games. Trying to defend his play by stating that "he could've have had that many turnovers" while simply citing a pathetic statistic to back them up. Maybe you didn't see him get murdered on his way to the basket, or how he got completely beat on the defensive end that led to f&cking open jumper after open jumper.No mention of his overall poor play, his deficiencies as a FIBA point guard, and his numerous costly mistakes that helped lead Team USA down the drain.

Ok dude. I'm glad you know what I was doing while the FIBA games were on. Were you here in my living room? You love the Paul homers? Well I love the Paul haterz that don't know what the h*ll they're talking about. You've made yourself very clear man. Did Paul have many turnovers? Like I said, I'm only making a point about the turnovers. I would be making the point if it were Kidd, Billups, Hinrich or whoever. If they didn't have that many turnovers, they didn't have that many turnovers.
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