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Old 08-26-2007, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

Here are the 2 teams (it should say THREAT, not THREAD):

Blazers. You had a deep team with a mixture of veteran leadership, and young, up-and-coming players. It was thought to be the perfect blend of young and old. You had the lightning quick Stoudamire running the point, the smooth and steady Steve Smith stroking the threes from downtown, the grizzled floor leader/vet in Pippen, a supremely talented Wallace, and a versitle center in Sabonis who was an exceptional passer and long distance shooter. Coming off the bench was the high flyer Bonzi Wells, a stellar defender in Greg Anthony, a banger up front in Brian Grant, and a veteran shooter in Detlef Shremph.

Kings. A more dynamic, younger team than Portland. Not as tough defensively, but a team of great passers, great shooters, and guys who knew their role. Mike Bibby was a clutch shooter and a welcome change from Jason Williams. Christie was one of the top backcourt defenders and a good shooter. Peja was money from long range, Webber was in his prime and a complete beast, and you had the smooth as silk Vlade who was perhaps the best passer on the team and the heartbeat. Coming off the bench was "action" Bobby Jackson, who could've started on 20 other teams, a nice role player in Hedo Turkoglu, and a big body in Scot Pollard.

Which team could've/should've gotten the job done? Portland was SO close. They just lacked poise. You had some very volatle players in that mix, guys who couldn't keep their composure. Sacramento was the victim of people outside of Bibby and Jackson not being able to make shots down the stretch. I felt like Portland was closer, so therefore, they take the title of being the bigger disappointment. They had a 15-point lead in the final game. A trip to the finals was in their grasp, and at this point in time, the Lakers still had something to prove and hadn't had that championship poise yet. Sacramento was also tantalizingly close, but they were facing a Laker team that had already gone through the wars, so I don't think their loss was quite as surprising.

What does ISH think about this?

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Old 08-26-2007, 01:47 PM   #2
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Default Re: bigger thread to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

Bigger thread?

I think the Kings vs. Lakers had the largest threads
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:48 PM   #3
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Default Re: bigger thread to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

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Bigger thread?

I think the Kings vs. Lakers had the largest threads


YIKES! Oops for the typo

but you get what I mean............
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:03 PM   #4
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Default Re: bigger thread to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

Ovbiously it was the Kings. Game 6 of the 2002 WCF - 27 fourth quarter fouls called on the Kings that helped the Lakers win that game, and turn the momentum in the series.

Now, I will be the first one to admit the Kings choked at times, and missed key FT's, but they also dealt with injuries to key guys during their contending years, and were never 100% healthy in the playoffs. Peja, Bibby, Christie, Bobby J, Webber, Miller, etc all had injuries that effected them in the playoffs in a 3-4 year span.
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:40 PM   #5
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Ovbiously it was the Kings. Game 6 of the 2002 WCF - 27 fourth quarter fouls called on the Kings that helped the Lakers win that game, and turn the momentum in the series.

Now, I will be the first one to admit the Kings choked at times, and missed key FT's, but they also dealt with injuries to key guys during their contending years, and were never 100% healthy in the playoffs. Peja, Bibby, Christie, Bobby J, Webber, Miller, etc all had injuries that effected them in the playoffs in a 3-4 year span.


Yeah, it's really unfourtunate that injuries, bad luck, and questionable officiating did the Kings in. They were a fun group to watch. I can't think of a team in recent memory that could move the ball around did like SAC did, and it all started with the man in the middle, Vlade Divac................
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Talking Re: bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

I think the biggest threat to the LAKERS early in this decade is none other than the Sacramento Kings. They probably have one of the best rivalry of all time as both team are almost evenly match the LA LAKERS have Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal while the Sacramento Kings have Peja Stojakovic, Mike Bibby and Chris Webber.

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The rivalry is recent, having started in 2000, as both teams rose to prominence, but has taken on a number of different dimensions, such as Northern California vs. Southern California, state capital vs. largest city. Shaquille O'Neal infamously called the Sacramento Kings team the "Sacramento Queens" as an insult, and Lakers coach Phil Jackson called the city a "Cow Town", to which Kings fans responded by clanging cowbells at home games. During the Lakers' 2002 championship parade, O'Neal said "now remember, Sacramento will never be the capital of California."

Beside this is prove who is the better basketball system Triangle Offense againts the Rick Adelman System ( I forgot the term).


On the court, the games between the two teams were definitely intense, culminating in the 2002 NBA Western Conference Finals, which featured Robert Horry's famous last-second three-pointer to beat the Kings in Game 4, a 1 point Kings win off of a Bibby field goal in the waning seconds of Game 5, and finally a Game 7 with 19 lead changes and 16 ties producing a Lakers overtime win.

I think if the Sacramento Kings won the Western Conference Finals againts the LA LAKERS. I think they have at least 75 % chance to win the NBA Championship because i cannot see the New Jersey Nets winning at least one game againts this mighty offensive juggernaut known as the Sacramento Kings.

I do not know if this rivarly would once again rekindled, but i am sure most LA LAKERS and Sacramento Kings Fans will never forget that both this team both played their hearts out during the post season.

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Old 08-26-2007, 05:18 PM   #7
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Default Re: bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

The Kings. Should've won that series against LA. LA matched up with Portland too well and had superior coaching, and played with a more team concept. The Kings gave the Lakers fits and Vlade Divac's flopping kept Shaq off balance.
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Default Re: bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

Blazers. The Kings were only a threat for one year. The Blazers were a threat every year until 2003.
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Default Re: bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

Neither... it's the spurs, the only team they played that beat them in those run during the early 2000's
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Neither... it's the spurs, the only team they played that beat them in those run during the early 2000's


I am talking about the 2000-2002 run, but I didn't really mention specific years at the beginning of my thread, so that is my fault for not being more clear. Yes, the Spurs did beat the Lakers in 2003, but I was just comparing/contrasting these 2 teams that NEARLY beat them.......
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Default Re: bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

I almost always felt better about POR's chances.

I don't remember any terrible calls in that famous POR/LAL game... but it probably was rigged in retrospect... I'm gonna watch it carefully next time they show it on ESPN Classic.

Although... POR sure seemed to help the refs rig it... if that makes any sense.
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Default Re: bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

Good post.


The Kings, IMO, were much more of a threat. They had more versatility than the Blazers. They had all the right pieces. A steady clutch point guard in Bibby, a exceptional shooter in Peja, a dominant power forward who could dish the rock with ease in Webber and a 7 foot big man who could also pass and hit the three in Miller. Granted, Miller and Bibby are still there but the fire is gone. They should have rebuilt their franchise a long time ago instead of trying to revitalize it with Artest. Anyways, talent wise, the Kings of that time just had much more talent, versatility and chemistry than the Blazers. If it wasn't for that fateful game against the Lakers, the Kings would have a championship banner hanging in Arco.
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The Kings, IMO, were much more of a threat. They had more versatility than the Blazers. They had all the right pieces. A steady clutch point guard in Bibby, a exceptional shooter in Peja, a dominant power forward who could dish the rock with ease in Webber and a 7 foot big man who could also pass and hit the three in Miller. Granted, Miller and Bibby are still there but the fire is gone. They should have rebuilt their franchise a long time ago instead of trying to revitalize it with Artest. Anyways, talent wise, the Kings of that time just had much more talent, versatility and chemistry than the Blazers. If it wasn't for that fateful game against the Lakers, the Kings would have a championship banner hanging in Arco.
Brad Miller came in the 04 season, after the Kings were the best they were in 02.
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Default Re: bigger threat to Lakers early in the decade: Blazers or Kings?

Good thread.

The bigger rivalry was the Portland Trailblazers. The Portland Trailblazers were constantly in the media for their on-court success and off-the-court problems. The Kobe Bryant Verses Scottie Pippen was a rivalry that people forgot about.

Damon Stoudamire, Bonzi Wells, Rasheed Wallace, Steve Smith, Scottie Pippen, Arvydas Sabonis, Ruben Patterson, and so many more players have battled against the Los Angeles Lakers. Mike Dunleavy Senior was a great coach for them.

Their General Manager, Bob Whitsitt, did a lot for the team. He did a lot, mainly because the owner had deep pockets, but there was so much excitement and energy at that time.

Los Angeles Lakers verses Portland Trailblazers was the fight of the night; a battle of beasts. It was a rivalry that's still a little bit alive today. The Los Angeles Lakers have lost a lot of games at the Rose Garden lately, and the "Beat LA" chants and signs still reign supreme at the Rose Garden anytime the Los Angeles Lakers play the Portland Trailblazers at the Rose Garden.
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