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Old 09-15-2007, 11:57 PM   #1
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Default Is our country trapped in a cycle of war?

It seems like we enter another conflict every decade or so. What did we accomplish in Korea? Vietnam? Was it worth the suffering?

Before WW2 we were a pretty isolationist country. Since then we have been involved in numerous wars, but we have never issued a declaration of war. Dwight Eisenhower used his farewell adress to warn us of the dangers of a war-based economy and the millitary industrial complex. Heres the wikipedia link if you don't know what that is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...strial_complex

Are we trapped in a cycle of conflict because of our economy? If you didn't know the US spends the more money on defense and millitary than any other country by far.

What do you think?

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Old 09-16-2007, 12:17 AM   #2
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our country is not addicted to war.


our government, our political leaders, are addicted to making sure they control what the rest of the world does
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:22 AM   #3
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our country is not addicted to war.


our government, our political leaders, are addicted to making sure they control more thanwhat the rest of the world does


there is an established link between the oil industry, the defense industry, the millitary, and congress. wars are being waged over money instead of justice.
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:51 AM   #4
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Default Re: Is our country addicted to war?

Humans have been warring since we've been on this planet. It isn't that the USA is addicted to war, but rather war is unfortunately human nature. Hopefully we can overcome this dark tendency before we cause our own extinction.
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:53 AM   #5
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Default Re: Is our country addicted to war?

Yes US provoked this war. Like some other guy said, US tends to try to govern the world which pisses off alot of countries. So what do they do? Well 9/11 is an unfortunate example.
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:54 AM   #6
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no just like in everythin people wanna see the top dog fall and look at most of the wars the US has been in...it was more outta defense then us initatin it
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:07 AM   #7
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it was more outta defense then us initatin it

thats where you're wrong. since world war 2 we have initiated every war we have been in. besides, do we logically need enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world more than 1 time? Our contry posses more than twice that power. Thats not in defense.
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:20 AM   #8
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Persian Golf? that was on Saddam and we really didnt have to do anythin about communism...

the nuclear power is about pretty much a bully to these other countries and just showin off...and i would like to kno could we shoot down any nuclear bomb North Korea or Iran would send at us?
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:28 AM   #9
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Persian Golf? that was on Saddam and we really didnt have to do anythin about communism...

the nuclear power is about pretty much a bully to these other countries and just showin off...and i would like to kno could we shoot down any nuclear bomb North Korea or Iran would send at us?

yes we can probably shoot down korea's nuclear missle if for some reason they went crazy. but iran has never threatened us and korea would only ensure its destruction by nuking us.

what do you mean "on" Saddam? i don't even think you should have an oppinion if you haven't researched the topic. have you?

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Old 09-16-2007, 11:08 AM   #10
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there is an established link between the oil industry, the defense industry, the millitary, and congress. wars are being waged over money instead of justice.



hence, the US government wants to control the world. in order to get $$$

but to say the United States and her people and citizens are all war mongers, is a wrong thing to say.


this is why I think the terrorists need to pick a fight with America the government, not America her citizens.


and if they whine and cry about how powerful the US government is, then well... I guess you have to build up your own nation terrorist cowards.
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:39 PM   #11
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there is an established link between the oil industry, the defense industry, the millitary, and congress. wars are being waged over money instead of justice.

not to forget private industry too

halliburton and other american based companies have made billions on the current war

although i wouldnt say we are addicted to war, when there are opportunities to use (or sell) our military hardware hence needing to produce more is tied into economic well being,

it does push the decisionmaking into war easier.

we then cloak it in words such as "freedom" and it is hard to argue against the patriotic emotionalism that will line us up while holding our flags
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:50 PM   #12
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It seems like we enter another conflict every decade or so. What did we accomplish in Korea? Vietnam? Was it worth the suffering?

Before WW2 we were a pretty isolationist country. Since then we have been involved in numerous wars, but we have never issued a declaration of war. Dwight Eisenhower used his farewell adress to warn us of the dangers of a war-based economy and the millitary industrial complex. Heres the wikipedia link if you don't know what that is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...strial_complex

Are we trapped in a cycle of conflict because of our economy? If you didn't know the US spends the more money on defense and millitary than any other country by far.

What do you think?

What did we accomplish in Korea? North Korea invaded South Korea, if we had not gone in Kim Jong Il would rule all of Korea now.

We were isolationist before WWI, not WWII. Woodrow Wilson's foreign policy had to do with intervening in foreign conflicts for *moral* purposes.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:29 PM   #13
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What did we accomplish in Korea? North Korea invaded South Korea, if we had not gone in Kim Jong Il would rule all of Korea now.

We were isolationist before WWI, not WWII. Woodrow Wilson's foreign policy had to do with intervening in foreign conflicts for *moral* purposes.

Woodrow Wilson wanted to go to war for the money, not some moral principle.

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Old 09-16-2007, 05:49 PM   #15
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we then cloak it in words such as "freedom" and it is hard to argue against the patriotic emotionalism that will line us up while holding our flags
Just something that popped in to my head...

Does anyone else think that Bush took advantage of that feeling of Patriotism after 9/11 to start his war?

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this is why I think the terrorists need to pick a fight with America the government, not America her citizens.
I wish it was that easy, I think we all do.

But from the beginning of government and war, the everyday guy has always been the one to suffer. The war is fought on the farmer's fields and amongst the begger's brothers.
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