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Old 10-06-2007, 10:22 PM   #1
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Default Greg Monroe took a wrong turn this summer

Greg Monroe took a wrong turn this summer

By Mike DeCourcy - SportingNews

Mike Decourcy
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Somewhere in the course of a short 12 months, Louisiana prep basketball prospect Greg Monroe forgot about working to become the next Dwight Howard and decided he could be the next Josh Howard.

Where he got that idea is anyone's guess.

Why he'd think that would be a good idea is a mystery.


This explains a lot, though. A college coach who has been working the recruiting circuit offered this -- the effort to convert Monroe to small forward rather than perfect his power forward skills -- as an explanation for Monroe delivering as disappointing a summer as any elite prospect in recent memory.

This is not uncommon in the current climate. Playing inside is hard enough work that many big men open themselves to suggestions from friends, family members and, occasionally, coaches, that they could be more successful operating on the perimeter. The sight of a Kevin Durant nailing 3-point jumpshots is more seductive than the picture of Tyler Hansbrough getting his nose broken beneath the goal.

The colleges recruiting Monroe -- including, but not limited to, LSU, Duke, Kansas, Baylor and Texas -- still want him very much. Whichever one gets him, though, will not be restricted to playing him on the perimeter. Their coaches are professionals. Howard will be a power forward again the minute he signs a letter of intent.

This summer, though, he blew an important step on the way to becoming a great power forward. When he should have been developing post moves and rebounding technique, both of these being weak areas for such a promising big man, Nike had Monroe at its Vince Carter camp for elite high school wing players. According to some reports, Monroe struggled to fit in with the best at those positions.

When he should have been working in the lane to dominate the competing big men at Nike's LeBron James Skills Academy, he was floating around on the perimeter appearing out of place and ineffectual.

Monroe, who is 6-10, 220 pounds and attends Helen Cox High in Harvey, La., has a broad set of shoulders and serious athleticism. What he does not have at this point in his development is any consistent means of getting the ball in the basket. He can take the ball off the boards and dribble into an open court, and he's a capable passer. But Monroe is not a jumpshooter by any means and not quick enough to drive the ball past prominent wings. That's why playing him outside is of little use.

"As a 4, he can handle the ball pretty well," said recruiting analyst Evan Daniels of Scout.com. "But he's not a 3."

A wasted summer is not without consequence. Not that it's going to affect his career in any appreciable way, but many analysts, save for Scout.com's Dave Telep, demoted Monroe from the No. 1 ranking in his class. More important, it can affect how the scouts whose decisions translate into dollars -- those in the NBA -- ultimately view him.

Consider the case of Charlie Villanueva. After loafing his way through the summer of 2002, Villanueva wound up needing to spend two years at Connecticut to get himself into the NBA draft, and he'd already created so much doubt about his commitment level that the Toronto Raptors initially were blasted for selecting him at No. 7 overall.

The most curious aspect regarding the lust of so many post players for the supposedly easy life on the perimeter is that the big guys always make the big money. Even marginal bigs have attracted huge NBA contracts. Washington's Etan Thomas is slated to make $20.6 million over the next three years. He averaged 6.1 points and 5.8 rebounds last season.

Hoopmasters.com analyst Van Coleman sees this and can't figure out why Monroe and those around him cannot. "I think he can become a dominant 4, but there are still skills to be learned," Coleman said. "Use your athleticism to make you a dominant force. That's the key thing in all of this."
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:10 AM   #2
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Greg Monroe is obviously gunna be an immature player in the league. Why is he trying to build his game after another player. He should do his own thing and be more like a cross between Howard and Howard.
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:13 PM   #3
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man stop tryin to play my son.he is good i play against him in highschool he wants perimeter moves and big man moves so he can become a well rounded player
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:42 AM   #4
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Worthless article.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:40 AM   #5
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Greg Monroe is obviously gunna be an immature player in the league. Why is he trying to build his game after another player. He should do his own thing and be more like a cross between Howard and Howard.
The writer was obviously just turning a phrase in saying he's trying to be like Josh Howard instead of Dwight Howard.

Don't take things so literally, use a little reading comprehension.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:45 AM   #6
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man stop tryin to play my son.he is good i play against him in highschool he wants perimeter moves and big man moves so he can become a well rounded player
There's a difference between being a well-rounded player and trying to be something you aren't. Clearly Monroe doesn't have the quickness to defend elite wing players, or the handle to do much offensively from the perimeter.

And that's okay. Most 6'10" guys don't. There are all-time great NBA power forwards who would've never had the quickness or the ball-handling ability to be a small forward. In fact, most of them didn't.

If you have all the tools to be a dominant interior player, your time is best spent honing that. "Well rounded player" is often a euphemism for "doesn't want to bang in the paint." Sounds like that's the case with Monroe, and this article sure as hell isn't the first place I've read that, or seen it with my own eyes.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:18 PM   #7
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Wonder what this writer will say now that Monroe has committed to Georgetown with its fabled history of big men?
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Cali kid headed to DC? Nice. Never saw a clip of this kid. Need to youtube.

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Wonder what this writer will say now that Monroe has committed to Georgetown with its fabled history of big men?

He'll say "Why Gtown? He could have gone anywhere but Gtown? Wrong turn!" :
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no its not because he can start quicker and um im goin there for the summer to train so welll see
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:15 AM   #10
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Cali kid headed to DC? Nice. Never saw a clip of this kid. Need to youtube.
Monroe is from Louisiana.
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LOL someone told me this kid is a center. http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2rXEOiDs3o He looks like a small forward. He needs to bulk up a lot if he wants to play PF or C. Physically he looks similar to Kevin Durant who is going to play shooting guard in the NBA.
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LOL someone told me this kid is a center. http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2rXEOiDs3o He looks like a small forward. He needs to bulk up a lot if he wants to play PF or C. Physically he looks similar to Kevin Durant who is going to play shooting guard in the NBA.
First, you're looking at a video from almost a year ago. Second, the guy isn't even in college yet. Most 17 year olds aren't built like LeBron James was.
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Monroe is from Louisiana.

Yea...i saw "LA" on his nbadraft.net profile and assumed Los Angeles.
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:33 PM   #14
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man **** yall louisiana basketball players can beat anyone in the country trust me cause i play down here
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man **** yall louisiana basketball players can beat anyone in the country trust me cause i play down here
Have you ever played against players from other states on a regular basis as well? What point of comparison can you make?
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