Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > NBA Team Forums > Philadelphia 76ers Forum

Philadelphia 76ers Forum Philadelphia 76ers forum - 76ers message board - Sixers fan forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-31-2006, 05:55 PM   #1
LakerRaider
Great college starter
 
LakerRaider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,171
LakerRaider has an OK reputation so far
Default The Allen Iverson Fiasco

The Philadelphia 76ers were heavily and publicly shopping Allen Iverson trying to trade him away, but when they couldn't find any takers, they couldn't trade him.

You have to wonder how frustrated Allen Iverson is with the Philadelphia 76ers right now. He poured his heart and soul in this franchise, and now they want to trade him.

This reminds a Los Angeles Lakers fan of the time when Shaquille O'Neal was rumored to be traded from the Los Angeles Lakers to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers didn't get the talent that was equal to Shaquille O'Neal's talent although Lamar Odom is pretty good.

Fast-forward to 2006, the Philadelphia 76ers might have to trade away Allen Iverson for players who might not be equal to his value, not out of necessity, but maybe because one or both parties are not satisfied??? Not confirmed, pure speculation.

If Allen Iverson is traded, don't expect the Philadelphia 76ers to get fair or equal value in return.
LakerRaider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 05:56 PM   #2
Nowitzki41MFFL
 
Posts: n/a
Default

It doesnt matter, that franchise has one of the worst futures in the NBA, with or without Allen Iverson.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 05:57 PM   #3
jaydacris
Rose
 
jaydacris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Knicks101
Posts: 18,712
jaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablejaydacris is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default

lakers had immense pressure put on them by shaq and his childish antics at the time. Iverson has been acting in a mature way, talkin about how he wants to be a sixer for life, and if worse comes to worse he'll be a professional whereever he gets traded. Im sure King and Kupchak's situation at the time are far different.
jaydacris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 06:09 PM   #4
RidonKs
NBA Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Free Hat!
Posts: 17,865
RidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaydacris
lakers had immense pressure put on them by shaq and his childish antics at the time. Iverson has been acting in a mature way, talkin about how he wants to be a sixer for life, and if worse comes to worse he'll be a professional whereever he gets traded. Im sure King and Kupchak's situation at the time are far different.

The fact that Iverson sctually said that whatever happens, he just want the best for the 76ers organization is a true testament to how much he's grown up and matured. I hope he gets traded to a contender (or near contender) and he helps lead them to glory. I wouldn't want him riding the coattails of anyone, though, like Payton or Zo. I'd want him to be the guy that got the team their championship, whoever it may be.
RidonKs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 06:11 PM   #5
geeWiz15
Quality Posts™
 
geeWiz15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: limbo
Posts: 5,765
geeWiz15 has a near all-star reputation heregeeWiz15 has a near all-star reputation heregeeWiz15 has a near all-star reputation heregeeWiz15 has a near all-star reputation heregeeWiz15 has a near all-star reputation heregeeWiz15 has a near all-star reputation here
Default

It's very embarassing for the Sixers organization. AI wants to stay, fans want him to stay, and all you hear in the news is the Sixers trying to get one too many scrub rookies from the Celtics or something in a deal for him. And after all this if he isn't traded? Major disrespect, only thing that could be worse is if they deal him for a bunch of "young talent" that has done nothing in the NBA so far, expiring contracts, and he goes to a team with a bunch of young kids who won't reach their prime until he's retired (cough Blazers).
geeWiz15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 06:13 PM   #6
indenial
Banned
 
indenial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portland, OR.
Posts: 201
indenial has not been impressing people
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LakerRaider
The Philadelphia 76ers were heavily and publicly shopping Allen Iverson trying to trade him away, but when they couldn't find any takers, they couldn't trade him.

You have to wonder how frustrated Allen Iverson is with the Philadelphia 76ers right now. He poured his heart and soul in this franchise, and now they want to trade him.

This reminds a Los Angeles Lakers fan of the time when Shaquille O'Neal was rumored to be traded from the Los Angeles Lakers to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers didn't get the talent that was equal to Shaquille O'Neal's talent although Lamar Odom is pretty good.

Fast-forward to 2006, the Philadelphia 76ers might have to trade away Allen Iverson for players who might not be equal to his value, not out of necessity, but maybe because one or both parties are not satisfied??? Not confirmed, pure speculation.

If Allen Iverson is traded, don't expect the Philadelphia 76ers to get fair or equal value in return.
SO TRUE!
indenial is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 06:14 PM   #7
RidonKs
NBA Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Free Hat!
Posts: 17,865
RidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableRidonKs is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default

And you know that if he does end up staying, he's still going to put it all on the line, no matter what, and he'll still be arguably the hardest working player in the NBA.
RidonKs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 06:18 PM   #8
StraightHustlinInTDOT
I hit open 5-footers
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 76
StraightHustlinInTDOT has not been impressing people
Default

AI is playing it smart. Looks like he did learn a thing or two from his former coach Larry Brown in making himself look like the good guy if he does gets traded.
StraightHustlinInTDOT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 06:36 PM   #9
LakerzFan4Life
Decent playground baller
 
LakerzFan4Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: StockTown
Posts: 206
LakerzFan4Life has no real reputation yet.
Default

hes a naturalborn hustla..
LakerzFan4Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 07:29 PM   #10
mhg88
Local High School Star
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,385
mhg88 is considered somewhat coolmhg88 is considered somewhat coolmhg88 is considered somewhat cool
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RidonKs
And you know that if he does end up staying, he's still going to put it all on the line, no matter what, and he'll still be arguably the hardest working player in the NBA.



I think you'd have to practice with the team to qualify for that title.
mhg88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 08:15 PM   #11
Voice of Reason
Local High School Star
 
Voice of Reason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: BANitentiary
Posts: 978
Voice of Reason has not been impressing people
Default

AI has been shopped around every year. How is this year any different? How is this year any different then the year he was all but traded....until Gieger saved the day? Only to gave AI rejoin the team/franchise and play for a coach that was the reason AI was going to be traded. AI said it himself while he wants to finish his career in Philly he will understand if the team wants to trade him. All he asks is that when they trade him they HELP themselves because it would kill him if they traded him and didnt help thier franchise.

No respect nor love is lost. AI is a standup guy and was treated as such. When trade talks were serious he was pulled in the office and made aware he was put on the table. AI respects that then sitting home and hearing on sportscenter he had been dealt. So get over it, AI is happy and people are making it like he is hurt, bitter. He's not. AI trade talks has been around yearly. This year isnt any different besides the media making a big deal out of it.
Voice of Reason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 08:19 PM   #12
Voice of Reason
Local High School Star
 
Voice of Reason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: BANitentiary
Posts: 978
Voice of Reason has not been impressing people
Default

How often do players of AI status get traded for fair or equal value? Shaq wasnt. Barkley wasnt. Vince wasnt. Grant Hill wasnt. But thanks for stating the obvious. Appreciated.
Voice of Reason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 08:23 PM   #13
IL Mago
I airball my layups
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 33
IL Mago has an OK reputation so far
Default

no matter what philly does, they are going to get screwed if they trade iverson, but at the end of the day,they have too, cuz they aint going anywhere anways, they might as well blow it all up, and if history tells you anything that is exactly what they gonna do in trading iverson

When you trade a franchise player you never get fair value for two reasons


1.) how can you possibly get significantly better if you trade one of the best players in the league

2.) it is not like someone is going to offer you their franchise player striaght up, cus at the end of the day, no one gets their team any better

Because of these two things when teams trade their franchise player, the only thing they get is a combination of draft picks, young players with or without potential, high priced over paid veterans whether they are good or not to make the contracts match, and some other scrub/filler.

if you look at the trade of any major franchise player in the last 15 years, this is the trend they will follow.

- Vince Carter trade
- Shaq trade
- Mcgrady trade
- Barkley trade(which made philly so bad that they got the #1 pick and ironically drafted iverson

so if they trade iverson they are in automatic rebuilding mode for sure and billy king gets fired leaving someone else to pick up the pieces
IL Mago is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 08:24 PM   #14
Voice of Reason
Local High School Star
 
Voice of Reason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: BANitentiary
Posts: 978
Voice of Reason has not been impressing people
Default

What was the Tmac trade because I think that was as fair as you could get. Steve Francis wasnt chopped liver.
Voice of Reason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2006, 08:27 PM   #15
Skywalker
LFC|JAYS|RAPS|VIKES
 
Skywalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 14,976
Skywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterSkywalker is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default

Mcgrady, Lue, Howard (all star pf), Gaines

for

Francis, Mobley, Cato

IIRC
Skywalker is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:34 PM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site













Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy