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Old 06-29-2008, 11:49 PM   #1
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Default 5235's ignorance on atheletic progression

I am a newbie to this fabulous forum but not thee Fabulous Forum where I spent so many nights at court side and in the rafters since its opening in the mid-60s. My pops worked for Datsun now Nissan a Lakers primary sponsor.

I was warned about 5235 and now I see why. According to his thinking the pre-Magic era is of no consequence and none of the greats before 1980 are worth anything, he claims that even a 1th man on the bench today sitting there because of expansion would ridicule the all-stars past. Then he goes off to state that 30, 40 or 50 years from now atheletes will not get any better. Daaaaang how myopic or ignorant

Atheletic performance improvement is a natural progression, once a feat has been done, thos that have seen it can repeat it, add their own flair and improve on it, just a natural order of things not only in atheletic endeavors but in life as general, it is called progress, evolution.

It once was thought that it was physical impossible for man to run a mile in less than 4 minutes. An athelete must be compared with their peers of thier era just like filmmakers must be compared to their contemporaries, Alfred Hitchcock, Cecil B Demile and others didn't have the computer technology of today, that doesn't make them inferior or invalid. Are the pilots of WW2 worthless because they didn't have jets and hi tech? The Egyptians, Chinese, Greeks or Romans didn't have modern construction apparatus yet are we to say their accomplishments are of any value? Medicine is the same, all the disciplines of the Arts, sports, society have a natural progression

In the very recent past we have seen the evolution of basketball players around the world since the Dream Team, in less than 10 years female basketball will have ladies dunking and accomplishming previously unseen feats on a game to game basis, mark my word

Somewhere across the US and around the world they are young men and women as well as unborn future cagers/hoopsters/ballers who will make M J, Kobe, LeBron, DeWade pale in comparison. Surely a 5235 equilvalent in the future will be lamenting the lack of skills of the players of the 2000s and 2010s laughing at the replays. I wonder if 5235 will speak out for those he so much raises to the highest level now?

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Old 06-29-2008, 11:52 PM   #2
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well said... how's pasadena?
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:12 AM   #3
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Make sure to visit the Lakers forum....



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Old 06-30-2008, 12:25 AM   #4
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Go figure BULLS (aka 5 2 3 5). It just becomes like overcooked rice after a while.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:48 AM   #5
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Seeing guys like 5235 still exist in this world shows that the human race still has a lot of evolving to do
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:50 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Lax4422Chik1342
I am a newbie to this fabulous forum but not thee Fabulous Forum where I spent so many nights at court side and in the rafters since its opening in the mid-60s. My pops worked for Datsun now Nissan a Lakers primary sponsor.

I was warned about 5235 and now I see why. According to his thinking the pre-Magic era is of no consequence and none of the greats before 1980 are worth anything, he claims that even a 1th man on the bench today sitting there because of expansion would ridicule the all-stars past. Then he goes off to state that 30, 40 or 50 years from now atheletes will not get any better. Daaaaang how myopic or ignorant

Atheletic performance improvement is a natural progression, once a feat has been done, thos that have seen it can repeat it, add their own flair and improve on it, just a natural order of things not only in atheletic endeavors but in life as general, it is called progress, evolution.

It once was thought that it was physical impossible for man to run a mile in less than 4 minutes. An athelete must be compared with their peers of thier era just like filmmakers must be compared to their contemporaries, Alfred Hitchcock, Cecil B Demile and others didn't have the computer technology of today, that doesn't make them inferior or invalid. Are the pilots of WW2 worthless because they didn't have jets and hi tech? The Egyptians, Chinese, Greeks or Romans didn't have modern construction apparatus yet are we to say their accomplishments are of any value? Medicine is the same, all the disciplines of the Arts, sports, society have a natural progression

In the very recent past we have seen the evolution of basketball players around the world since the Dream Team, in less than 10 years female basketball will have ladies dunking and accomplishming previously unseen feats on a game to game basis, mark my word

Somewhere across the US and around the world they are young men and women as well as unborn future cagers/hoopsters/ballers who will make M J, Kobe, LeBron, DeWade pale in comparison. Surely a 5235 equilvalent in the future will be lamenting the lack of skills of the players of the 2000s and 2010s laughing at the replays. I wonder if 5235 will speak out for those he so much raises to the highest level now?

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Old 06-30-2008, 01:56 AM   #7
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I give 5235 one thing: he has an outstanding ability at getting on the nerve of everyone.

I've seen very respectable posters fall for his circus of irrationalities and get involved in arguments, just to later be frustrated with BULLS' denial to even consider opinions that disagree with his, even if that means defying basic logic.


But come think of it, it's a guy who spends hours and hours discrediting the past. Is he worth it? Yeah, you feel you have to stop him when you see people falling for his arguments -which happen to have more holes than swiss cheese-, but I couldn't care less.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:21 AM   #8
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Well, there's a good chance he's a kid. Most kids today seem to be under the delusion that the players of today are "way more better" athletes and players than those from the 80s and 90s... I know this isn't the exact case with this guy, but it's an analogy.

Interesting enough, the best 40 yard times, vertical jumps, and high flying dunkers occurred in the 80s and 90s, not today.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:23 AM   #9
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Well said, well said
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:16 AM   #10
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That post was WEAK.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:28 AM   #11
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That post was WEAK.


No actually it was a great post.

Lax: you gotta know that thereīs really no difference between 5235/Bulls/Poseidon (his other nick) and the real trolls/idiots here. Just because he doesnīt write "I liek Knobe <3" doesnīt mean that his views are any different then the other 12-yearolds that are roaming these boards and hating on everything and everyone not name KB24.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:50 PM   #12
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No reply from bullz?
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:59 PM   #13
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Right now, I'm watching the MSG Network from New York City, and they have a show called The MSG Valut. Anywho, they're showing a couple of classic games from the 1970s Knicks team, in particular their rivalry with the then-Baltimore Bullets. I'm seeing two of the greatest ballhandlers in the history of the NBA in Walt "Clyde" Frazier and Earl "The Pearl" Monroe...and one of the top 10 backcourts of all-time. It's not to mention that Frazier was one of the greatest defensive guards of his era...he was a definite ballhawk, rather sneaky. You don't see much defense like that nowadays. Willis Reed was one of the great shooting big men of his era, and yeah I know that he played center at 6'9" or 6'10", but he held his own (i.e. neutralize) with the likes of other great bigs...Nate Thurmond, Kareem, Wilt, Unseld, etc.

The problem is that although the players today are more atheltic (like I mentioned in a recent related thread), the players from yesteryear were more well-rounded. Nowadays, you have a lot of guys who are "specialists". Sure, they were "specialist"-type players back in the day, but there more of them today. There are guys that who can one thing (and only one thing) well...you got guys who can only dunk, some that can only rebound, some than can only play defense, and on and on.
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:04 PM   #14
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You guys are old enough to realize that BULLS is just trolling in this site, and if you don't want to read his crappy posts just put him in your ignore lists.
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:19 PM   #15
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yeah. what a weak post in a weak era.
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