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knickscity 01-12-2007 11:08 PM

Knicks vs Bobcats Game Thread
Man where do I start. This was the game I kind of figured we would lay an egg in, but not this bad. We are definitely still a work in progress. Here is some of my notes I didn't enjoy. seeing......

1) Eddy reverted back in a big way. He may have had 25 or so points, but he refused to even put his hands up once the fouls started piling on him.
2) Where is Renaldo Balkman? He got no run at all.
3) We have to maintain dominance at home. No way washed up Derek Anderson is supposed to come in a bust you for 26. He is averaging just 5 points on the season.
4) We gave up 74 points in the second half. That's deplorable.
5) I know Okafor is a good shotblocker but damn 10 blocked shots?
6) we played absolutely no defense at all.
7) Frye had 10 points in the first quater but hardly got any run for the rest of the game.

In a previous thread I brought out that being healthy while good was going to be a test. This was a setback. We are supposed to beat this team. What i was expecting from Isaiah was to sit Curry down, put out a three guard rotation of Crawford, Marbs and Q together on the floor with Frye and lee. This lineup could have ran with the Cats and would have keep those drives by felton to the min. But I guess having everyone back may be a curse cause tonight Zeke had no clue who to play. We got by with Philly the other night because they are terrible. We squeaked with 22 turnovers. Tonight we got caught. Bad loss.

knickscity 01-12-2007 11:21 PM

BTW, what **** was Nate arguing about at the end of the game? He aint learned his lesson at all. They got smoked tonight and he over there *****ing with the ref. The refs didn't have nothing to do with. They laid the egg and refused to defend. Even Q was rattled at the end. that's was shocking. He is usually pretty level headed.

bigdaddybluesman 01-13-2007 01:35 AM

Three steps ahead three steps back.

That's what I wrote about Curry disappearing against the better opponents.

They should have demolished that team.

Poor defense.

Bad coaching job.

Why did he sit Frye, he was taking over the game. because Zeke's precious Curry was having a bad day!!!!!!!!!

Not enough Lee that's for sure. When is Zeke going to get it right. He is just like Curry, just when you think they get it they revert back to confusion.

Crawford is a great shooter and bench player.

First team:

Second team:

Rose and Collins

It's not perfect but makes more sense. His rotation is all screwed up again and it showed.

I hate to say it but I think Nate's time here is over. He's an idiot.

Crawford has a low basketball IQ and makes stupid plays and turnovers. I think balkman is a better player than jefferies.

ChanningShamgod 01-13-2007 01:49 AM

I don't understand why everybody gets on me when I'm not happy with three wins against terrible teams, and suddenly we're shocked and angry when we lose to the Bobcats. Oh wow? You can dominate the Knicks by playing zone defense and putting a shot blocker on Curry? Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick of your "wow, we're on a roll now" comments. Watch the whole games, and when we can all agree the Knicks play a solid game, then I'll say we're on a roll.

And yes, I am mad. THIS WAS THE BOBCATS!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Amigo 01-13-2007 03:31 AM

It's funny cuz when they win this whole board talks about playoffs and crap like that. They sucked. That's all. No excuses. Curry is NOT a force in the middle. He WILL be dominated by any team that gets him into foul trouble or double teams him constantly. Let them win another game and you all will sing a different story. They win the games they put effort in and this wasn't one of those games. I really don't see any playoff spot opening for the Knicks.

LouV 01-13-2007 10:08 AM

Everyone has summed it up nicely.

No defense, no defense, bad coaching job, no defense.

Isiah has done a great job in my opinion as a GM. He knows talent. But as a coach, I think he is not top echelon, and we all know it. He knows it. But he's forced into the job. He's got to stress defense more.

Pat Riley always had Van Gundy as his defense coach. Does Isiah have anyone in this role?

shafir 01-13-2007 11:54 AM

Disgusting game.

j Fresh 01-13-2007 12:43 PM

how do you lose to the Bobcats? is that even an NBA team?

brooklynchild155 01-13-2007 02:28 PM

if they played a little d they would have won that game easily. now they got to get over this l and beat the kings.

j Fresh 01-13-2007 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by brooklynchild155
if they played a little d they would have won that game easily. now they got to get over this l and beat the kings.

how do you lose to the Bobcats??????

Amigo 01-13-2007 11:04 PM

But it's the Bobcats. Bobcats!!! :banghead:

knickscity 01-14-2007 10:00 AM


bigdaddybluesman 01-14-2007 10:52 AM

There are problems with this team.

I think it centers on, well, the center.

More so on Isiah's rotation.

Frye was eating them up at the center position and should have been left there. He is more athletic then Curry and Brezac could not take him. Okafor was also having trouble with Frye. But Zeke is stubborn to the point of proving a point even though the team loses.

Frye was hot, why go away from what is working?

I can't see Lee losing minutes because of Q. That is stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jefferies should have been the one losing minutes.

Again Zeke is going backward and not seeing what gave us the wins only what he wants to see.

He's playing contracts again and we lose.

Again he is stifling guys like Lee, Frye and Balkman. They were the one's who were playing well when we win. Curry too but he only plays well against lesser opponents and disappears against the better players in the league.

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