Dunking Data For 1988-1993: MJ is the Goat In-Game Dunker for Wing Players

[hitmanyr2k]

Lebron doesn't dunk on Hibbert. He just blocks Hibbert's dunks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emoRlBi9OzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwgKwhd9VPo

It's Roy Hibbert He takes 5 seconds just to gather himself to go up for a layup or dunk and has a 10 inch vertical leap on top of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO_Vx8Oeydo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjJUjL_QG4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d74qoWx9zh4

[AlphaWolf24]

This made me remember talking to a young man on the BBALL court recently..

He Knew about AIR Jordans....the shoe.....because they had a "Air cushion system"...and he knew about Michael Jordan.....and those were Jordan's shoes.

But he didn't know about Michael " AIR" Jordan.





- Before the Titles, Before the fadeaway's, Before the determination, Before the clutchness....he was already a super duper star because he could Dunk....alot!......and his Dunks were thunderous and he was high up....very high up.

( side note, when the Air Jordans were released.....they were called SKY Jordans for sizes 5 - 11 kids)

[3ball]

...MJ on Dr. J

[jlip]

It's Roy Hibbert He takes 5 seconds just to gather himself to go up for a layup or dunk and has a 10 inch vertical leap on top of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO_Vx8Oeydo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjJUjL_QG4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d74qoWx9zh4

If it's just Roy Hibbert who "takes 5 seconds just to gather himself to go up for a layup or dunk and has a 10 inch vertical leap on top of that." Why are you making a big deal about Lebron not dunking on him? What would be so impressive about dunking on someone who is slow and has a limited vertical leap? Why have you been so eagerly

looking for a Lebron James poster on Roy Hibbert forever.

[fpliii]

Only regular season.. I have no reason to lie.. I like everyone.. I wish we had postseason because Jordan's dunks go up in the postseason, just like the rest of his numbers... half of those dunks in those GIF's are from the postseason.

Ordered those four guides BTW. I'll upload the scans to this thread when they arrive.

[3ball]

Ordered those four guides BTW. I'll upload the scans to this thread when they arrive.

Very cool.. thanks a lot.. Looking forward to seeing those numbers from the group of players in those years.

[jlip]

Only regular season.. I have no reason to lie.. I like everyone.. I wish we had postseason because Jordan's dunks go up in the postseason, just like the rest of his numbers... half of those dunks in those GIF's are from the postseason.

I don't necessarily question the bold part, but probably 99.9% of your posts have been dedicated exclusively to the MJ>Lebron arguments. Whether that position is true or not, I couldn't care less, but it's obvious that your goal is to present that case at all costs.

[fpliii]

Do the media guides include regular and postseason dunk totals or just regular season? How can we verify that without mere speculation?

Regular season only. Refer to the 05-06 edition (which includes dunks from 04-05):

http://www.nba.com/media/sixers/05-06SIX_p1-50.pdf

On page 9, at the bottom, the totals for each year are listed under the heading "SEASON TOTALS." This goes back to 87-88, and there appears to be some air of consistency.

Further, the top 2 guys are Shaq and Amare. Both played in the postseason, and dunked a good deal:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...onealsh01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...stoudam01.html

36 and 40 playoff dunks respectively. But in Pollack's guide, they're credited with 255 and 237, matching their regular season totals exactly.

So my conclusion is that the dunks counted in Pollack's guides comprise only regular season totals.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I've been looking for a Lebron James poster on Roy Hibbert forever and then realized it was never coming. Hibbert can barely get off the ground but for some reason Lebron always seems to bitch up when he sees him in the paint instead of taking Hibbert's soul with a vicious dunk. Swingmen of the 90's would have posterized that scrub into submission and made him this era's Shawn Bradley by now.

He had multiple chances in the 2013 ECF but didn't. He's too busy picking on the small guards like Jason Terry, then boasting. Bully coward style. MJ was busy taking pride posterizing huge shot blocking centers in the paint. Why? Actual competitor.

[hitmanyr2k]

If it's just Roy Hibbert who "takes 5 seconds just to gather himself to go up for a layup or dunk and has a 10 inch vertical leap on top of that." Why are you making a big deal about Lebron not dunking on him? What would be so impressive about dunking on someone who is slow and has a limited vertical leap? Why have you been so eagerly

I make a big deal about it because Lebron seems scared of that scrub as if it's Olajuwon, Robinson or Mutombo sitting in the paint waiting for him . He's had chance after chance to poster Hibbert and every time Lebron sees him in the paint he bails and tries some bullshit layup and then looks at the ref for a whistle if he misses.

[Smoke117]

Interesting numbers...Jordan and Pippen were basically easily the two best in game dunkers on the perimeter during this time. What makes it stand out more is the fact that the Bulls were always at the bottom in pace. (last in 88 and 93) Drexler is 2nd to Jordan here, but the Blazers of that time always played an up tempo style...if the Bulls had played more up tempo Jordan and Pip would have even more dunks. I want to see the 92, 94, 95, and 96 numbers.

[SamuraiSWISH]

if the Bulls had played more up tempo Jordan and Pip would have even more dunks.

Though they still got a lot of transition buckets do their combined suffocating defense.

[3ball]

.
Year..... Shots..... Dunks....Shots Per Dunk

1988..... 165,439..... 5,727..... 28.89 <------ harder to dunk
1989..... 182,375..... 6,475..... 28.17
1990..... 192,942..... 7,011..... 27.52
1991..... 193,050..... 7,241..... 26.66
1992..... 193,401..... 8,122..... 23.81
1993..... 190,296..... 8,252..... 23.06
1994..... 186,948..... 8,515..... 21.96
1995..... 180,414..... 8,645..... 20.87
1996..... 190,675..... 8,468..... 22.52
1997..... 188,587..... 8,460..... 22.29
1998..... 189,544..... 9,318..... 20.34
1999..... 113,390..... 4,681..... 24.22
2000..... 195,228..... 8,325..... 23.45
2001..... 191,661..... 7,319..... 26.19
2002..... 193,256..... 8,439..... 22.90
2003..... 192,096..... 8,265..... 23.24
2004..... 189,805..... 8,120..... 23.38
2005..... 197,640..... 9,150..... 21.60
2006..... 194,310..... 8,640..... 22.49
2007..... 196,080..... 8,310..... 23.60
2008..... 200,490..... 9,270..... 21.63
2009..... 199,050..... 9,360..... 21.27
2010..... 201,000..... 8,790..... 22.87
2011......199,800..... 8,910..... 22.42
2012..... 161,220..... 7,320..... 22.02
2013..... 201,600..... 9,540..... 21.13
2014..... 204,180..... 9,030..... 22.61 <------ easier to dunk


So it was harder to dunk in Jordan's day, for all the reasons mentioned (no spacing, no defensive 3 seconds, more physical defense, real bigs, better shot contestion, etc, etc, etc).
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[DonDadda59]

The bolded above is wrong.


Year[COLOR="White"]....... [/COLOR] Shots[COLOR="White"]........ [/COLOR]Dunks[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]Shots Per Dunk

1988..... 165,439..... 5,727..... 28.89
1989..... 182,375..... 6,475..... 28.17
1990..... 192,942..... 7,011..... 27.52
1991..... 193,050..... 7,241..... 26.66
1992..... 193,401..... 8,122..... 23.81
1993..... 190,296..... 8,252..... 23.06
1994..... 186,948..... 8,515..... 21.96
1995..... 180,414..... 8,645..... 20.87
1996..... 190,675..... 8,468..... 22.52
1997..... 188,587..... 8,460..... 22.29
1998..... 189,544..... 9,318..... 20.34
1999..... 113,390..... 4,681..... 24.22
2000..... 195,228..... 8,325..... 23.45
2001..... 191,661..... 7,319..... 26.19
2002..... 193,256..... 8,439..... 22.90
2003..... 192,096..... 8,265..... 23.24
2004..... 189,805..... 8,120..... 23.38
2005..... 197,640..... 9,150..... 21.60
2006..... 194,310..... 8,640..... 22.49
2007..... 196,080..... 8,310..... 23.60
2008..... 200,490..... 9,270..... 21.63
2009..... 199,050..... 9,360..... 21.27
2010..... 201,000..... 8,790..... 22.87
2011......199,800..... 8,910..... 22.42
2012..... 161,220..... 7,320..... 22.02
2013..... 201,600..... 9,540..... 21.13
2014..... 204,180..... 9,030..... 22.61


So it was harder to dunk in Jordan's day, for all the reasons mentioned (no spacing, no defensive 3 seconds, more physical defense, real bigs, better shot contestion, etc, etc, etc).
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Buh buh buh... dat advanced defense

Why was there such a weird jump in '98?

[Hoopz2332]

Lebron has no two footed jump.

go to :16 secs in this video and tell me LBJ has no 2 footed dunk/jumps

LEBRON JAMES 7 DUNKS on Toronto Raptors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6H3YgM1JHw&hd=1