SG Comparison: 2014 vs. 1990

[3ball]

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Starting SG's with Minimum 15.0 PER (positions based on bballref):


(lists are only loosely matched up to see which era can match the other era player-for-player)


[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]2014[COLOR="White"].................................[/COLOR]1990

James Harden.................... Michael Jordan*
Dwayne Wade.................... Clyde Drexler*
Manu Ginobili..................... Mitch Richmond*
Joe Johnson....................... Joe Dumars*
Demar Derozan.................. Reggie Miller*
Klay Thompson.................. Ron Harper
Jamal Crawford.................. Fat Lever
Aaron Afflalo...................... Alvin Robertson
Nick Young........................ Dale Ellis
JJ Redick............................Ricky Pierce
Kevin Martin...................... Hersey Hawkins
Wesley Matthews............... Jeff Hornacek
Gerald Green..................... Ronaldo Blackmon


HOF (*)
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[Encre92]

Dragic is more of a PG.

He's a top 3 PG and a top 3 SG though.

[305Baller]

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[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR]Starting SG's with Minimum 15.0 PER:


[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]2014[COLOR="White"].................................[/COLOR]1990

James Harden.................... Michael Jordan*
Dwayne Wade.................... Mitch Richmond*
Manu Ginobili..................... Joe Dumars*
Joe Johnson....................... Reggie Miller*
Goran Dragic...................... Fat Lever
Demar Derozan.................. Ron Harper
Jamal Crawford.................. Jeff Hornacek
Aaron Afflalo...................... Alvin Robertson
Nick Young........................ Dale Ellis
JJ Redick............................Ricky Pierce
Kevin Martin...................... Hersey Hawkins
Wesley Matthews................ Jeff Malone
Gerald Green..................... Ronaldo Blackmon


HOF (*)
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wheres drexler?

[3ball]

wheres drexler?

holy crap.. ....

[Warfan]

So Klay Thompson isnt a top 13 SG? Ok

[3ball]

So Klay Thompson isnt a top 13 SG? Ok

I had to make a cutoff somewhere, so I went with all starting SG's with over a 15.0 PER - those were the requirements, as it says in the title.

Klay didn't have a 15.0 PER... but he was the one of 3 or 4 above-average SG's left off in 2014 for this - i can't list all the SG's - i have to cut it off somewhere... and there were good SG's that got left out for 1990 too - infact, I left several off from 1990 that had over a 15.0 PER because there wouldn't be anyone from 2014 to match them up with - Mitchell Wiggins, Tony Campbell and Reggie Theus.
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[3ball]

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Fixed the OP to include Drexler.. Jeff Malone gets left out.. 1990 already looked strong, but looks kind of amazing now now..


[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]2014[COLOR="White"].................................[/COLOR]1990

James Harden.................... Michael Jordan*
Dwayne Wade.................... Clyde Drexler*
Manu Ginobili..................... Mitch Richmond*
Joe Johnson....................... Joe Dumars*
Demar Derozan.................. Reggie Miller*
Goran Dragic...................... Fat Lever
Jamal Crawford.................. Jeff Hornacek
Aaron Afflalo...................... Alvin Robertson
Nick Young........................ Dale Ellis
JJ Redick............................Ricky Pierce
Kevin Martin...................... Hersey Hawkins
Wesley Matthews................ Ron Harper
Gerald Green..................... Ronaldo Blackmon


HOF (*)

[Warfan]

I had to make a cutoff somewhere, so I went with all starting SG's with over a 15.0 PER - those were the requirements.

Klay didn't have a 15.0 PER... but he was the only good SG left off because of this and there were good SG's that got left out for 1990 too... Jeff Malone for example, Reggie Theus and Paul Pressey.

Well i disagree with it but whatever. JJ Reddick only played 35 games though, so who's next after him?

You included Manu? This is only starters right? Unless you just made an exception for him...

[3ball]

Well i disagree with it but whatever. JJ Reddick only played 35 games though, so who's next after him?

You included Manu? This is only starters right? Unless you just made an exception for him...

I made an exception for Manu.. and also for Jamal Crawford kind of, but he started about 1/3 of his games.

Honestly, if I couldn't include them, the 2014 class would look ridic thin.. just that much more than it already does compared to 1990.. i'm surprised at how distinct the comparison turned out to be.

Also, I had to include Redick - he started all his games for the clips in the regular season and then in the playoffs... so he was a starter, and he is one of the best SG's in today's NBA.
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[Warfan]

I made an exception for Manu.. and also for Jamal Crawford kind of, but he started about 1/3 of his games.

Honestly, if I couldn't include them, the 2014 class would look ridic thin.. just that much more than it already does compared to 1990.. i'm surprised at how distinct the comparison turned out.. at least imo..

Im pretty sure Gerald Green only got a lot of starts because Bledsoe went down. But Lance, Beal, Klay arent on the list either and im sure there are a couple other names im forgetting.

But right now there arent any great SG's and the top talent at the position isnt great. There are a lot of good but not great players at the position

[3ball]

I should have mentioned that the lists are not ranked in any kind of order...

Instead, they are loosely matched up player to player for easier comparison..

[aj1987]

I should have mentioned that the lists are not ranked in any kind of order...

Instead, they are loosely matched up player to player for easier comparison..

And you matched up MJ with Harden?

Can you also do one for the SG's of the '00's vs the SG's of the '90's? Probably 2005 vs 1990?

[Im so nba'd out]

Dragic is more of a PG.

He's a top 3 PG and a top 3 SG though.

Weird cause the Suns list bledsoe as pg which means they dont even feel he is the best pg on the suns but he is top 3...

[rule1223]

And you matched up MJ with Harden?

Can you also do one for the SG's of the '00's vs the SG's of the '90's? Probably 2005 vs 1990?

shooting guards circa 2005 were the deepest and most talent set of players at that position in nba history, would love to see them side by side with the 90's to show how pathetic jordans era of competitors was

[3ball]

And you matched up MJ with Harden?

Can you also do one for the SG's of the '00's vs the SG's of the '90's? Probably 2005 vs 1990?

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[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR]Starting SG's with Minimum 15.0 PER:

(lists not ranked in any kind of order - only loosely matched up player-to-player for easier comparison)

[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]2006[COLOR="White"].................................[/COLOR]1990

Kobe Bryant*.......................... Michael Jordan*
Dwayne Wade*....................... Clyde Drexler*
Manu Ginobili*........................ Mitch Richmond*
Ray Allen*.............................. Joe Dumars*
Vince Carter*.......................... Reggie Miller*
Michael Redd.......................... Fat Lever
Jason Richardson..................... Ron Harper
Richard Hamilton..................... Hersey Hawkins
Joe Johnson............................ Dale Ellis
Mike Miller...............................Ricky Pierce
Bonzi Wells............................. Alvin Robertson
Jamal Crawford....................... Jeff Hornacek
Morris Peterson....................... Ronaldo Blackmon
Leandro Barbosa..................... Jeff Malone


HOF (*)