Proof that you can't believe ex-players or Wiki

[lilteapot]

I'm not sure if you mentioned it yet but it's called navigation efficiency.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Lmfao

OP posts a gif of Klay splitting a double team and throwing down a monster dunk as proof that he is not athletic.

[3ball]

OP posts a gif of Klay splitting a double team and throwing down a monster dunk as proof that he is not athletic.

There are different levels of athleticism:




JUST "OKAY" ATHLETICISM (takes a ton of dribbles... poor navigation efficiency):






"PRETTY GOOD" (only 1 dribble after the crossover, solid skill/athleticism):






"GOAT" (no dribbles after the crossover - goat combo of skill/athleticism):

[ralph_i_el]

There are different levels of athleticism:




JUST "OKAY" ATHLETICISM (takes a ton of dribbles... poor navigation efficiency):






"PRETTY GOOD" (only 1 dribble after the crossover, solid skill/athleticism):






"GOAT" (no dribbles after the crossover - goat combo of skill/athleticism):

oh so MJ is the GOAT because he traveled?

[lilteapot]

Why are the worst posters on this forum OKC fans?

[La Frescobaldi]

oh so MJ is the GOAT because he traveled?

everything I've seen this guy write is banal. and it never stops.

Just like this trashy show, using a clip of jordan breaking the rules as a display of greatness.... when what it really does is belittle Jordan a little more. Every example he uses is just.... bad.

Then he goes off on those endless rants about defense rule changes.

Like he has made a blinding discovery on the level of Newton or Einstein.... that no one else in all of history ever knew or could have ever figured out except through the brilliance and guiding hand of 8ball.

[3ball]

.. Hop-Step, No Travel

oh so MJ is the GOAT because he traveled?

he didn't travel on the in GIF above - even though he doesn't take any more dribbles after the crossover and still gets all the way to the rim (which is why it's a great play), he uses a UNIQUE hop-step (where he sneaks a step in there right before the jumpstop) that keeps his footwork in sync - he's the only player to use this move.

on the other double-team splits, shown again below, he doesn't do the hop-step, but still has the right footwork to get all the way to the rim without taking another dribble and without travelling - taking the most steps with the least dribbles is goat navigation efficiency, and a represents a goat combination of skill and athleticism.

[josh99]

There are different levels of athleticism:




JUST "OKAY" ATHLETICISM (takes a ton of dribbles... poor navigation efficiency):






"PRETTY GOOD" (only 1 dribble after the crossover, solid skill/athleticism):






"GOAT" (no dribbles after the crossover - goat combo of skill/athleticism):

Are you blind??

1. Klay Thompson's gif is completely different from any of the others. He has to take more dribbles to get around Adams and make sure Ibaka doesn't reach in and steal it.

2. Westbrooks pick and roll is above the 3 point line, Jordan's is below the 3 point line.

3. Jordan is more athletic than these players so of course he is able to take make more athletic plays. However being athletic doesn't automatically make you better or otherwise someone like StrowShow would be one of the GOATs.

[3ball]

Are you blind?

Westbrooks pick and roll is above the 3 point line, Jordan's is below the 3 point line.

i've posted many GIFs itt where Jordan splits the double above the 3-point line - here's one:

However being athletic doesn't automatically make you better or otherwise someone like StrowShow would be one of the GOATs.

you have to be athletic AND SKILLED to reach the basket with less dribbles and you must have goat skill to do the Jordan hop-step shown in previous GIFs.

and jordan wasn't just athletic - he's the one-and-only GOAT (there is only ONE goat btw).. whereas today's players enjoy the benefits of spacing... jordan never played with spacing, yet his stats are still GOAT.
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[3ball]

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Here is the "Jordan Hop-Step" - only MJ used this particular type of hop-step (where he sneaks in a step right before the jumpstop) - it allows the player to take one LESS dribble on the way to the rim:
















the only other guy i've ever seen do it is gerald green:..


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The proprietary hop-step above isn't the first thing MJ invented - he also invented the MJ Lean-In.. But with the lean-in, everyone has copied him, whereas only MJ and Green use this specific hop-step.

Both are GOAT NAVIGATION EFFICIENCY
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[ArbitraryWater]

OP literally makes this forum less fun

OP the type of dude that takes the ball with him when he gets mad so no one else can play

[3ball]

wiki, kerr, and half the media flat-out lying...

again, i'm not knocking kerr for saying it - it's just one of those things that you say because you know the interviewer wants to hear it and it keeps the conversation going on a friendly note - but it DOES give less knowledgeable fans a misperception..