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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    yeah, i'm tired of presenting objective facts to your ridiculous hyperbole(dumass still has no prof ). good night.

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by YAWN
    he makes 3s in every game.. against every single player.. and this happens for every single shooter in the league.. they make shots. They are in the NBA for a reason, because they can make shots.

    Are you saying that you expect Kobe to be the only player in the history of basketball to go out there and not let the guy he is guarding (who is not even a superstar player that the D is focused on stopping mind you) not take a shot?
    That's not it, it's the fact that Kobe cheats on defense, A LOT when he has to guard a guy with limited offensive game. Lots of defensive stoppers have scored in double digits/above their average against Kobe from Quinton last night, to Sefalosha, to Afflalo, to Battier.

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    And also to Jack,
    Maybe Kobe has those great defensive stats because he defends guys with extremely limited offensive games almost all the time?

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by gyu
    And also to Jack,
    Maybe Kobe has those great defensive stats because he defends guys with extremely limited offensive games almost all the time?
    Don't waste your time on him. I mean it's obvious to those of us with human sized brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gyu
    And also to Jack,
    Maybe Kobe has those great defensive stats because he defends guys with extremely limited offensive games almost all the time?
    *shrug* Kobe guards SG's. That's how it should be. Artest is the better defender so,naturally, he should get the other teams best player. The point is that Kobe has played excellent defense on who he's been asked to guard and he (and the rest of the Lakers) have done a excellant job guarding the three-point line( best in the NBA). Unfortunately, idiots like undertaker can't seem to comprehend these rather simple facts.

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by undertaker21
    Question for you. Would you call Allen Iverson a great defender in his prime?
    no..

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by gyu
    That's not it, it's the fact that Kobe cheats on defense, A LOT when he has to guard a guy with limited offensive game. Lots of defensive stoppers have scored in double digits/above their average against Kobe from Quinton last night, to Sefalosha, to Afflalo, to Battier.
    yes he does gamble a lot and go for steals or goes to help in the post. And on occasion leaves his man wide open for a 3. But I can't recall more than 5 times this season that I have seen that scenario play out. During the first third of this season most peoples were saying he was playing better D than he had since the 3 peat days..

    Really the only starter on the team that hasn't been up to par on D has been fisher. artest is playing really great defense this year. gasol and bynum aren't playing as good as they could on that end, but still above average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YAWN
    yes he does gamble a lot and go for steals or goes to help in the post. And on occasion leaves his man wide open for a 3. But I can't recall more than 5 times this season that I have seen that scenario play out. During the first third of this season most peoples were saying he was playing better D than he had since the 3 peat days..

    Really the only starter on the team that hasn't been up to par on D has been fisher. artest is playing really great defense this year. gasol and bynum aren't playing as good as they could on that end, but still above average.
    So you've only seen about 2 Lakers game this entire season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacks3
    *shrug* Kobe guards SG's. That's how it should be. Artest is the better defender so,naturally, he should get the other teams best player. The point is that Kobe has played excellent defense on who he's been asked to guard and he (and the rest of the Lakers) have done a excellant job guarding the three-point line( best in the NBA). Unfortunately, idiots like undertaker can't seem to comprehend these rather simple facts.
    Lol, let me get this straight. Now after saying that the Lakers are the best team at defending the 3 point line solely because of Kobe now you are admitting that Kobe doesn't guard the opposing team's best perimeter player nor is he even the Lakers best defender, and now saying the rest of the team has done a great job on perimeter defense?


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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by YAWN
    no..
    Well the same theory applies. Allen Iverson was never a great one on one defender either, but roaming and playing the passing lanes had people talking about him and his solid defense. Of course that's an extreme example and Kobe can play good man D when he wants to. The problem is that he doesn't actually do it very often.

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by fubu05
    So you've only seen about 2 Lakers game this entire season?
    ive watched about 95% of all their games this season..

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    Quote Originally Posted by undertaker21
    Well the same theory applies. Allen Iverson was never a great one on one defender either, but roaming and playing the passing lanes had people talking about him and his solid defense. Of course that's an extreme example and Kobe can play good man D when he wants to. The problem is that he doesn't actually do it very often.
    He does it every game... not for the full game, but every game he breaks out the man to man D. I don't think anyone expects him to come out and go balls out for every minute that he is on the floor, especially not when hes guarding a role player.

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by YAWN
    ive watched about 95% of all their games this season..
    Then you should know its happened way more than 5 times this season.

    Btw. Your avatar, She's so hot.

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by fubu05
    Then you should know its happened way more than 5 times this season.

    Btw. Your avatar, She's so hot.

    Your all over the phuckin' place man.

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    Default Re: Bynum: "We are all angry with each other"

    Quote Originally Posted by Waking_Life
    Your all over the phuckin' place man.
    ? What do you mean?

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