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Kobe Apostle
#91 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Vince Carter was voted the #90 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.
21.4 PPG | 5.1 RPG | 3.9 APG
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Local High School Star
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Vince carter??? Wtf??? His career is a failure.!!!!
Any how
Mitch Richmond
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Lol
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Kobe Apostle
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Originally Posted by DirtySanchez
Vince carter??? Wtf??? His career is a failure.!!!!
Any how
Mitch Richmond
And how is Richmond's not a failure then if Carter's was? How many sub .500 teams has Richmond led? How many times has he missed the playoffs? And please don't mention his '02 ring when he averaged 1.5 ppg in the playoffs.
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Local High School Star
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I'll go with Andrew Toney again.
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Decent college freshman
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Chet Walker.
For all the advanced stat junkies, a fine post by Neil Paine below. In 1967 (based on 2008-09 adjustment) his ORtg was 122, equal to LeBron, and ahead of Kobe, Wade, & Nash. Chris Paul was slightly ahead (124).
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=2938
One thing that's interesting to me about the 1970s Bulls is the presence of a guy named Chet Walker. Walker has to rank as one of the most underrated players in league history, and I can't for the life of me understand why -- the man was a 3-time NCAA All-American, a 7-time NBA All-Star, he was super durable (he played the max number of games 5 times and only missed 13 games between 1965 & 1974), he scored almost 20,000 career points and averaged 20.3 per 36 minutes, and was one of the league's most efficient scorers to boot (top 10 in TS% for 5 seasons, top 10 in FT% 6 years). If we convert his Basketball on Paper stats to the 2008-09 offensive environment of 108.3 points per 100 possessions, this is what you get:
Those efficiency numbers would have statheads drooling if Walker put them up nowadays. But for some reason, Walker is so underrated that his name doesn't even come up frequently in discussions of underrated players... He's even too underrated to appear on "all-underrated" lists!
The HOF process also rewards players who won championships, as well as those who made strong bids in the MVP award balloting. As we mentioned earlier, Walker's Bulls never won a title, and when he did get a ring, it was as a third banana (behind Wilt Chamberlain & Hal Greer on the 1967 76ers). Meanwhile, Walker's best showing in the MVP voting was a measly tie for 16th in 1975.
Don't let the reputation (or lack thereof) fool you, though: Walker was a terrific player, especially at his peak. His raw stats may be solid if unspectacular, but his advanced metrics -- his per-minute rates and his efficiency numbers -- are very impressive.
Chicago Tribune - Nov 2, 1990
"Chet was a great one-on-one player and a great clutch player; one of the most underrated clutch performers to play the game," says ex-teammate Jerry Sloan.
[i]November 23, 2005
Billy Cunningham: Dr. J would match up against Chet Walker. Julius was obviously better in the open court offensively than Chet and a better shot blocker. Chet was a better one-on-one player offensively and would probably try to post up Julius and do things like that.
[b]*You mentioned that Chet Walker was a better one-on-one player than Julius Erving offensively and you said that Julius was better in the open court. In what way was Chet Walker better one-on-one? I think that in a lot of people
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NBA lottery pick
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Local High School Star
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Local High School Star
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Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
And how is Richmond's not a failure then if Carter's was? How many sub .500 teams has Richmond led? How many times has he missed the playoffs? And please don't mention his '02 ring when he averaged 1.5 ppg in the playoffs.
Was that Richmonds fault he was on bad teams in Sac and Was. He stilled shined and was one of the best players in the NBA. Carter got injured......a lot! Him and TMac are would of could of type careers.
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Is it in you?
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5-time NBA All-Star
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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Good High School Starter
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