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Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
wade = top 25-30 all time
pippen = top 20-25 all time
kareem = arguable goat
pau = top 90-100 all time
pau:
averaged 19ppg
0-12 playoff rec as 1st option
averaged only 9 rebounds as a 7 footer
4 reserve allstar games
2 all nba third teams
is currently averaging 13/8/3 on 45%fg's as a 7 foot center/power forward
as for the other 3 guys
- dwyane wade
24/5/6 career average
7 all nba teams (2 first teams)
3 all defensive teams
finals mvp
allstar mvp
9 time starting allstar
- scottie pippen
20/7/6 average from 1990-1998
16/6/5 average career
7 all nba teams (3 first teams)
10 all defensive teams ( 8 first team )
allstar mvp
7 time allstar (starting some games )
kareem abdul jabbar
24/11/3 career
15 all nba teams (10 first teams )
11 all defensive teams ( 5 first teams )
7 time mvp
2 time finals mvp
19 time allstar ( started most )
3 hall of fame legends
1 boarderline allstar for half his career. a nobody for the other half
this is why i don't care that kobe had shaq for his first 3 rings... his 3 straight finals, back 2 back titles/finals mvps with a guy like pau gasol is something nobody else has ever done in nba history
hakeem did it once ( then won in 95 with a legend )
walton did it once
barry did it once
dirk did it once ( but lately its been obvious tyson chandler as a defensive anchor was the real reason the mavs were dominant )
duncan did it once in 2003
only these guys had comparable running mates for a single title
every other big name in nba history to lead a team to a championship did it with a legendary side kick
kobe did it with a bum................TWICE
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Not being a high caliber star historically doesnt mean him a bum.
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by ZeN
Not being a high caliber star historically doesnt mean him a bum.
but he was a bum
hes pau gasol
the softest player in history
couldnt rebound the ball at 7 feet tall
could barely jump over a sheet of paper
settles for 20 footers
gets dunked on by 6-4 players
he was solid when the lakers won titles. but he was still one of the 5 worst 2nd options in championship history
and he should NOT make the hall of fame just because of a few silver medals from the olympics
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Pau was great in the 09 & 10 Playoffs.
18/11/3/2 58FG
20/11/4/2 54FG
"Bum"
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Local High School Star
Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
dirk did it once ( but lately its been obvious tyson chandler as a defensive anchor was the real reason the mavs were dominant )
You are an idiot. Dirk hasn't been playing like in 2011 playoffs, how can you get to this stupid conclusion?
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Pau was great in the 09 & 10 Playoffs.
18/11/3 58FG
20/11/4 54FG
"Bum"
i said he was solid during the titles
hes a bum career wise
without kobe he would have had a career similar to shareef abdur rahim
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by Segatti
dirk did it once ( but lately its been obvious tyson chandler as a defensive anchor was the real reason the mavs were dominant )
You are an idiot. Dirk hasn't been playing like in 2011 playoffs, how can you get to this stupid conclusion?
i dunno... the knicks suddenly a title contender and a solid defensive team?
tyson is obviously a garnett type defensive anchor out there
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Trump Towers
Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Gasol averaged 20 and 11 and 2 blocks per game on 54% shooting in the 2010 playoffs. What a bum
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Gasol was robbed of a fmvp
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
i said he was solid during the titles
hes a bum career wise
without kobe he would have had a career similar to shareef abdur rahim
and without shaq and gasol and phil jackson kobe would have had a career similar to allen iverson.
so what? means nothing....
Gasol during the two title runs was absolutely great. Way better than his numbers even suggest considering how clutch he was as well.
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by asdf1990
Gasol was robbed of a fmvp
33/8/6 2009 finals average
30/6/5 2010 finals average
main play maker, main ball handler too
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The Magical T-Mac
Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Kobe shot 25% on the most shot attempts in Game 7 and benefitted from the other team's defensive anchor going down with an injury for one of those rings.
I don't even care if you classify Gasol as a "bum", but it's impossible to paint Kobe as a hero who carried that team when others had to clean up his mess.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by asdf1990
Gasol was robbed of a fmvp
Your mother was robbed of her birth control
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
33/8/6 2009 finals average
30/6/5 2010 finals average
main play maker, main ball handler too
30/6/5 are pretty good numbers for a sidekick
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Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2
Originally Posted by DMAVS41
and without shaq and gasol and phil jackson kobe would have had a career similar to allen iverson.
so what? means nothing....
Gasol during the two title runs was absolutely great. Way better than his numbers even suggest considering how clutch he was as well.
i know everyone needs help
kobe just needed allot less than 90% of finals mvps
ofcourse if you take off your 2nd best player itel be hard to win
just saying kobes second best player for 2 straight titles was PAU GASOFT
lakers might be one of the only teams in history to win a title with ZERO interior defense
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