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College star
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by Ancient Legend
Michael Jordan is the best. You forget the insane amount of difficult layups he got in the 80's.
Derrick Rose was also better at contorting his body and making the shots. So was Iverson, and probably Monta Wllis/Kevin Johnson.
just because it's prettier and more acrobatic doesn't mean it's more effective
260 6'8 with 4x4 speed with the touch that lebron has >>>>>>
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Made that high school varsity squad
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by Boarder Patrol
This is what we're reduced to calling LeBron the best at now?
Like a first grader being the best at tying his shoes.
Future repped
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Made that high school varsity squad
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by Boarder Patrol
Future repped
WTF is this kid talking to himself for?
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Greatest
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by navy
Im just talking about driving and layupping. I suppose you could include dunking, but then it would be more about the best dunker, which he is not.
MJ at his athletic peak was better than LeBron at this.
Hell, compared to his 09-10 self, LeBron isn't really anywhere near as good at driving now. He sacrificed some athleticism for strength (which makes sense), but he used to be near unstoppable going to hole. He struggles taking quicker defenders off the dribble and needs multiple screens now.
MJ was better in this regard (quicker, more flexible) which is why I included the passing aspect. Lebron's court vision is better than MJ's, which means he has a case for being the best ever driver & passer/finisher. But he's not the best driver and finisher.
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Laker Nation
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by Boarder Patrol
WTF is this kid talking to himself for?
future repped.
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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by K Xerxes
MJ at his athletic peak was better than LeBron at this.
Hell, compared to his 09-10 self, LeBron isn't really anywhere near as good at driving now. He sacrificed some athleticism for strength (which makes sense), but he used to be near unstoppable going to hole. He struggles taking quicker defenders off the dribble and needs multiple screens now.
MJ was better in this regard (quicker, more flexible) which is why I included the passing aspect. Lebron's court vision is better than MJ's, which means he has a case for being the best ever driver & passer/finisher. But he's not the best driver and finisher.
LeBron is the best at finishing at the rim ever.
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Laker Nation
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
can anyone find stats for finishing at the rim for MJ, Lebron, Kobe, etc?
Career wise and/or peak season wise.
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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by riseagainst
can anyone find stats for finishing at the rim for MJ, Lebron, Kobe, etc?
Career wise and/or peak season wise.
Just looked them up. LeBron was the best.
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College star
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by K Xerxes
MJ at his athletic peak was better than LeBron at this.
Hell, compared to his 09-10 self, LeBron isn't really anywhere near as good at driving now. He sacrificed some athleticism for strength (which makes sense), but he used to be near unstoppable going to hole. He struggles taking quicker defenders off the dribble and needs multiple screens now.
MJ was better in this regard (quicker, more flexible) which is why I included the passing aspect. Lebron's court vision is better than MJ's, which means he has a case for being the best ever driver & passer/finisher. But he's not the best driver and finisher.
Jordan was definitely more athletic at his peak pound for pound. But we've never seen anything that came close to combination of size/speed/skill like Lebron...it's arguable though.
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Laker Nation
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
Just looked them up. LeBron was the best.
post links or you are just a fakkit.
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Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
A little hand checking and this is the end result
i'm going to say no.
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Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by Mr.Kite
A little hand checking and this is the end result
i'm going to say no.
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Bitch Hands
Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
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Re: Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?
Originally Posted by sbw19
[COLOR=Teal]Current era with new rules it's a tie between him and Wade. All time he's easily among the best.
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Wade has the most phantom calls I have seen in my life. People are scared to even defend him when he drives.
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