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NBA lottery pick
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Magic and Bird were NEVER freak athletic kind of players. Yet they dominated the league and REDEFINED basketball. Bron's versatility and size is GREATER THAN THEIRS!! So Bron can still dominate EVEN WITHOUT freak athletic ability. When looking at Bron, people need to make a parallel more to Magic and Bird. As opposed to MJ, Kobe, or Dr. J. Bron's skillset and versatility is more in line with those guys. Bron just has the freak athletic ability of MJ, Kobe, or Doc, that's really the only parallel I draw with him to those guys.
What knocked off Bird was a debilitating back injury. Magic chose not to play anymore due to the HIV situation. But his last year with the Lakers, he was putting up 15 points, 7 dimes, and 6 boards while WILLINGLY coming off the bench. Magic could have easily started at SF or PF and put up 20 points, 9-10 dimes, and 8 boards. At 36 YEARS OF AGE!! So let's pump our brakes when it comes to Bron past his prime or peak. When he's ONLY 29 years old!! When u are that big and versatile, the rules are DIFFERENT in my opinion if u can stay away from those debilitating injuries that put Bird down for the count.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
he's nowhere near the level he was in the 2007 playoffs versus the pistons where he scored 25 straight points, or in 2012 against the celtics when he dropped 45 in a dominant performance.
anyone that says he is still at this level is in denial.
he'll never be at that level again and will never have games anywhere near this level against good teams ever again.
somewhere around 27ppg where teammates don't play to their capacity - this coupled with no defense, and getting spanked by the good teams like the 14' Finals is the new norm..
just get used to it, jeez....
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Last edited by 3ball; 11-20-2014 at 08:27 PM.
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NBA Legend
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by bizil
Magic and Bird were NEVER freak athletic kind of players. Yet they dominated the league and REDEFINED basketball. Bron's versatility and size is GREATER THAN THEIRS!! So Bron can still dominate EVEN WITHOUT freak athletic ability. When looking at Bron, people need to make a parallel more to Magic and Bird. As opposed to MJ, Kobe, or Dr. J. Bron's skillset and versatility is more in line with those guys. Bron just has the freak athletic ability of MJ, Kobe, or Doc, that's really the only parallel I draw with him to those guys.
What knocked off Bird was a debilitating back injury. Magic chose not to play anymore due to the HIV situation. But his last year with the Lakers, he was putting up 15 points, 7 dimes, and 6 boards while WILLINGLY coming off the bench. Magic could have easily started at SF or PF and put up 20 points, 9-10 dimes, and 8 boards. At 36 YEARS OF AGE!! So let's pump our brakes when it comes to Bron past his prime or peak. When he's ONLY 29 years old!! When u are that big and versatile, the rules are DIFFERENT in my opinion if u can stay away from those debilitating injuries that put Bird down for the count.
They didn't pump there bodies full of PEDs for a decade/ there whole twenties..
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by bizil
Bron's versatility and size is GREATER THAN THEIRS!! (Bird and Magic)
be specific.
So Bron can still dominate EVEN WITHOUT freak athletic ability.
prove it - when has he ever done this?
he's way more athletic, but he has a fraction of the skill of magic and bird.
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Last edited by 3ball; 11-20-2014 at 08:31 PM.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by 3ball
be specific.
prove it - when has he ever done this?
he's way more athletic, but he has a fraction of the skill of magic and bird.
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His defensive versatility is WAY GREATER than theirs for example. Dude is 6'9 and 265 pounds. He has the BODY OF KARL MALONE!! What the hell are u talking about in terms of fraction of skill? He and Bird are the greatest passing forwards of all time. His total scoring skillset is better than Magic's at this point. Even when he does decline in athletic ability, he will be MORE ATHLETIC that Magic and Bird were at their peaks! Gotta say, U ARE CLOWN for saying Bron has the fraction of the skill that Magic and Bird have!! LOL Lebron's TOTAL VERSATILITY on both sides of the ball is greater than Magic's and Bird's. THAT'S A FACT!! I didn't say JUST OFFENSE!! I said BOTH SIDES OF THE ROCK!!
And he has the IQ and floor game to still get great assist numbers and boards as his athletic ability declines. So saying Lebron can DOMINATE without freak athletic ability isn't a stretch at all. My point was he's EASILY capable of doing that if he doesn't have debilitating injuries. With the way his game is built, it's much more than freakish athletic ability. His calling card FROM DAY ONE was his size, versatility, and passing mentality. His freak athletic ability was the bonus!!
Last edited by bizil; 11-20-2014 at 08:53 PM.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by coin24
They didn't pump there bodies full of PEDs for a decade/ there whole twenties..
Bron was freak athlete in high school CLOWN!! Bird and Magic were NEVER freak athlete kind of players. And do u have PROOF Bron was pumping his body full of PED's? That's SLANDER if u don't have any legit proof..
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by bizil
Bron was freak athlete in high school CLOWN!! Bird and Magic were NEVER freak athlete kind of players. And do u have PROOF Bron was pumping his body full of PED's? That's SLANDER if u don't have any legit proof..
The fact that Lebron has so many haters just goes to show how great he is. They say hate is a more passionate emotion than love. The worst thing that you can have someone experience about you is apathy. All these haters are just proving how great he is by the fact that they can't shut the **** up about him.
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Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by Smoke117
The fact that Lebron has so many haters just goes to show how great he is. They say hate is a more passionate emotion than love. The worst thing that you can have someone experience about you is apathy. All these haters are just proving how great he is by the fact that they can't shut the **** up about him.
Kobe really must be the GOAT then.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by Jacks3
Kobe really must be the GOAT then.
Except all the Kobe hate these days is a direct correlation to you stans. Most of us don't really care about Kobe in general...the whole idea is to troll you guys.
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NBA Legend
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
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GOAT
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
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Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by Smoke117
Except all the Kobe hate these days is a direct correlation to you stans. Most of us don't really care about Kobe in general...the whole idea is to troll you guys.
Yeah, it's nearly as funny as you LeBron stans losing your shit every time someone dares to say anything remotely negative about him. Writing essays and shit.
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Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by Smoke117
Most of us don't really care about Kobe in general...
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rent free
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Local High School Star
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
Originally Posted by imnew09
If so, that was weak and do not ever compare him to Jordan. This guy Stat padded his efficiency by joining 2 Superstar.
This is his 12th season, he was the best player in the NBA from season's 3- to last year,ff he is. He's better then Jordan.
Last edited by TAZORAC; 11-21-2014 at 07:58 AM.
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Dirk top 15 all time
Re: Lebron past his Prime/Peak?
lebron has 2-3 more very good years.... but i give haters and kobe stans the fact, that lebron wont be able to play like kobe in his 19th season. At least reaching this stats, cause i think bran, after 1-2 more chips and mvps, will accept a role that involving teamm8s is better than playing hero ball
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