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    Quote Originally Posted by nnn123
    He had an injured hand in the '98 season that affected his shooting, and adjusted by driving to the hoop way more than he had in his previous 2 seasons. Also the handchecking rules were softer after 94
    What good logic is there behind driving to the basket more..... which makes you more susceptible to getting hit on the hand?

    Link to hand injury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    Yes, in a far more physical era a prime Jordan was getting FAR less FTs per FG attempts than star wings get today. Not even close.

    Career FTr
    MJ - .348
    Kobe - .388
    Lebron - .428
    Durant - .435
    Wade - .459
    Harden - .548

    Captain Marvel with James Harden FTr averages 40 PPG.
    Lebron fam murdered:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    What good logic is there behind driving to the basket more..... which makes you more susceptible to getting hit on the hand?
    Can't get the sort of touch you need on a shot, how else are you gonna get buckets?

    Link to hand injury?



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    Bron fam gettin rectk'd in this thread.

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    2 random photo's..... but no link(S) reporting the face of the sporting world having an injured finger at the beginning of the 1998 season??

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    Never seen that vid before, the way that ref sucked up to MJ was embarrassing, can you imagine if there was footage of a ref sucking up to LeBron like that? ISH would go crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    2 random photo's..... but no link(S) reporting the face of the sporting world having an injured finger at the beginning of the 1998 season??


    Just take the L and move along. Jordan dislocated his right index finger several times from '95-'98. He had ligament damage as a result:

    Such was the case Saturday against Los Angeles. Jordan dislocated the finger on his shooting hand and took a seat on the bench next to Rodman, who has been bothered by calf injuries. Pippen scored nine of the Bulls' next 11 points as Chicago took control of the game.

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/4...AM.html?pg=all

    "When Hefferon did the surgery, he saw all the ligament damage I already had from dislocating my finger so many times," Jordan said. "So the only thing he could do was reattach the tendon. He said, `You'll lose some mobility; there is nothing I can do.'

    http://community.seattletimes.nwsour...4&slug=4011632

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    Current era is soft. You have more players getting injured despite having less harder fouls on players.

    In Jordan's era, you had players getting fouled hard and less injuries per season and that includes taking into account that there are more teams these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBJFTW
    Current era is soft. You have more players getting injured despite having less harder fouls on players.

    In Jordan's era, you had players getting fouled hard and less injuries per season and that includes taking into account that there are more teams these days.
    Do you have numbers to back that up, or? Injuries have always plagued the sport dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
    Never seen that vid before, the way that ref sucked up to MJ was embarrassing, can you imagine if there was footage of a ref sucking up to LeBron like that? ISH would go crazy.
    All of the MJ and Kobe stans would just be bitching(as usual) claiming that the league coddles him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117

    The problem is that, that is the most ft's he took per game since 1989. So a guy who has been moving away from the basket and driving less and less takes the most ft's since he was 25?
    You don't know the facts... MJ had 89 dunks in 1998... That would rank 2nd in Kobe or Tmac's entire careers.. And it would be BY FAR the most dunks in a season for Westbrook's career, or Paul George and just about everyone... You guys don't realize how athletic MJ was, that's all.

    MJ still went to the hole a ton in 1998, and he was much smarter than he was in 1989, so he knew how to draw fouls better... Unfortunately, for someone like you who's never picked up a basketball, you can't comprehend how a player can get better at drawing fouls as he gets older..

    Btw, in MJ's prime, he got 150 dunks a year - the only non-bigs in history that dunked that much are Dr. J...... Lebron.......... That's it.. Let me know if you want me to post the source where MJ's dunks were recorded - they come from old Philadelphia 76'er media guides - their media guides in the late 80's and 90's tracked everyone's dunks.
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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by nnn123
    He had an injured hand in the '98 season that affected his shooting, and adjusted by driving to the hoop way more than he had in his previous 2 seasons. Also the handchecking rules were softer after 94
    You're wrong on this. I watched that season live as it happened and he was MUCH more of a jumpshooter than ANY time in his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solid Snake
    You're wrong on this. I watched that season live as it happened and he was MUCH more of a jumpshooter than ANY time in his career.

    http://nyloncalculus.com/shotchart/nba/


    According to these shotcharts, 20% of Jordan's shots were within a 5 foot radius from the hoop in 1997, versus 25% in 1998.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by nnn123
    http://nyloncalculus.com/shotchart/nba/


    According to these shotcharts, 20% of Jordan's shots were within a 5 foot radius from the hoop in 1997, versus 25% in 1998.
    Bron Family in this thread:



    My goodness... How many Ls can one family hold in a single thread? This has to be some sort of World Record. Quick, somebody call Guinness.

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    Default Re: Ref gives foul call to Jordan

    Jordan was protected by the refs

    This isn't a surprise

    It forced defenders to play off him more

    Just look at the Reggie Miller incident

    Everyone in the arena saw he clearly punched Reggie in the jaw

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