U.S. women's team files wage-discrimination action vs. U.S. Soccer

[UK2K]

Five members of the U.S. women's national soccer team -- including Hope Solo, Carli Lloyd and Alex Morgan -- have filed on behalf of the entire team a wage-discrimination action against the U.S. Soccer Federation with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

The filing, citing figures from the USSF's 2015 financial report, says that despite the women's team generating nearly $20 million more revenue last year than the U.S. men's team, the women are paid almost four times less.

"Recently, it has become clear that the Federation has no intention of providing us equal pay for equal work," Megan Rapinoe said in a news release, after also attaching her name to the filing along with Becky Sauerbrunn.

Seems legit...

The U.S. women received a team total of $2 million when it won the World Cup last year in Canada. Yet when the U.S. men played in the World Cup in Brazil in 2014, the team earned a total of $9 million despite going just 1-2-1 and being knocked out in the round of 16.

Until...

You start talking facts.

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[TYCRO]

You are starting to sound like Jam.

[LJJ]

You sound a little bit confused.

The filing, citing figures from the USSF's 2015 financial report, says that despite the women's team generating nearly $20 million more revenue last year than the U.S. men's team, the women are paid almost four times less.

All they are asking for is that the compensation they receive from the USSF reflects the money they bring into the USSF. No more, no less.

None of the other shit you posted has anything whatsoever to do with this.

[TYCRO]

You sound a little bit confused.




All they are asking for is that the compensation they receive from the USSF reflects the money they bring into the USSF. No more, no less.

None of the other shit you posted has anything whatsoever to do with this.

Right, but he wants to complain about women anyway. This is what makes him sound like Jam. Women are rent free in the OP's head.

[ArbitraryWater]

Well, it was coming due to the tennis stuff... its great to see these other requests shut down though, maybe that will drive some sense into the tennis tour

[UK2K]

You sound a little bit confused.

All they are asking for is that the compensation they receive from the USSF reflects the money they bring into the USSF. No more, no less.

None of the other shit you posted has anything whatsoever to do with this.

YOU are a bit confused... because it has everything to do with what I posted.

According to the Wall Street Journal, there was $17 million in sponsor revenue for this year's women's World Cup compared to $529 million for the 2014 men's tournament. America's winning women earned a larger share, about 11%, of the money their tournament made this year from sponsors than the victorious German team, who got just 6.6% of the sponsor revenue from last year's men's World Cup as their prize.

That's where the money comes from. They could earn $200 million more than the mens team, but the revenue generated by the womens world cup is nothing in comparison to the mens, and thats where the paycheck comes from.

What part of 529 > 17 is confusing to you?

Germany won the Mens world cup that year, and received $35 million. Are you suggesting the women's champion (despite there being a fraction of the teams) should receive $35 million as well, even though the tournament as a whole only brought in $17 million? Where's the extra money coming from? You?

[LJJ]

YOU are a bit confused... because it has everything to do with what I posted.



That's where the money comes from. They could earn $200 million more than the mens team, but the revenue generated by the womens world cup is nothing in comparison to the mens, and thats where the paycheck comes from.

What part of 529 > 17 is confusing to you?

Germany won the Mens world cup that year, and received $35 million. Are you suggesting the women's champion (despite there being a fraction of the teams) should receive $35 million as well, even though the tournament as a whole only brought in $17 million? Where's the extra money coming from? You?

You are bringing up wholly irrelevant numbers. How much Germany made, how much the WC overall made, all completely irrelevant. How much men's football overall makes in comparison. Irrelevant.



As per the USSF own financial statements, the US women's national team generated $20 million more for the USSF than the US men's national team.

This is strictly about the USSF revenues and payouts. US women's made more, got compensated less. Simple. That's what this is about, nothing else. No other number you bring up is relevant.

[DeuceWallaces]

You are bringing up wholly irrelevant numbers. How much Germany made, how much the WC overall made, all completely irrelevant. How much men's football overall makes in comparison. Irrelevant.



As per the USSF own financial statements, the US women's national team generated $20 million more for the USSF than the US men's national team.

This is strictly about the USSF revenues and payouts. US women's made more, got compensated less. Simple. That's what this is about, nothing else. No other number you bring up is relevant.

You're right, and UK2K, as always is confused, but there will be an interesting legal battle because US Soccer is paid out via FIFA for the World Cups wherein the men's team gets a whole lot more for nothing they generate stateside.

The women clearly generate more money nationally, have higher tv ratings, go deeper into tournaments, are more successful, and are generally more popular. This was all collectively bargained and it's clouded by the FIFA pay outs and US labor laws.

I don't know enough about their CBA to make a real assessment but it's definitely a tricky situation.

[Nick Young]

how the phuck did the shitty women's team who went to the world cup that no one watched generate more money than the US mens team?

It's not "equal work" that the womens team are doing. They are playing a shitty inferior style of football and would lose 10-0 to any decent high school boys team.

LOOK-they played against our U17 boys team and lost 8-2.

And that was with the U17 Boys going 10 vs 11


If they want to get paid like the men, they should learn how to beat U17 boys. Sorry, I'm just being real.

If USA women went against USA men they would be murdered.


That is not "equal work". That is inferior work.

[9erempiree]

Why gals? Why?

There is no SJWing in sports.

[Dresta]

Is the US pretty much the only country in the world where people actually watch women's football?

Seems strange, because the game is utter shite.

[Akrazotile]

You're right, and UK2K, as always is confused, but there will be an interesting legal battle because US Soccer is paid out via FIFA for the World Cups wherein the men's team gets a whole lot more for nothing they generate stateside.

The women clearly generate more money nationally, have higher tv ratings, go deeper into tournaments, are more successful, and are generally more popular. This was all collectively bargained and it's clouded by the FIFA pay outs and US labor laws.

I don't know enough about their CBA to make a real assessment but it's definitely a tricky situation.

This seems to be the key to me.

They bargained their own salaries and so did the men. Nobody forced these women to accept the sums they agreed upon.

If the men and women had deferred their payment to be a percentage of revenue and then men were given more, of course you could claim discrimination.

But this is like Harden negotiating 70M with the Rockets, then Howard comes along and gets a 90M contract, and Harden claims discrimination for being shorter.

Hindsight disappointment in what you negotiated is not discrimination.

[Nick Young]

Is the US pretty much the only country in the world where people actually watch women's football?

Seems strange, because the game is utter shite.

most of the other countries field amateur teams that are only organized when a world cup comes around.

USA and I think Japan are the only countries that actually have a full-time team.

That is why you watch these shitty womens world cup matches and regularly see keepers and defenders who run AWAY FROM the ball.

They are just random amateur women who don't take the game very seriously put there to lose to Team USA.



The women think they should get more money than the men for beating shit competition like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwx0Uv93o8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akyBTzJ7oPo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGbFW6O7rnM

Are you ****ing serious?

Apart from team USA, and Team Japan, women's football is a complete joke.

the Women's world cup is basically a big event set up for USA to come in and curbstomp amateurs who don't even play football on a regular basis.

[Akrazotile]

Also, why do we even have separate tournaments for men and women? Everyone is equal and gender is a patriarchal social construct, right?

Just have one team with the best available players.

Equality.

[Nick Young]

Also, why do we even have separate tournaments for men and women? Everyone is equal and gender is a patriarchal social construct, right?

Just have one team with the best available players.

Equality.

Gender is just a patriarchal social construct. I agree with you. We need to start treating women in sports as the equals that they are.