Angela Merkel, doing what Hitler and Wilhelm Couldn't

[Dresta]

Simpleton. NOW it is.

Germany held 20% the UK held 17%, largely a push.

The UK was there to represent the white-anglo world in one of the biggest economies. They were to make sure the bloc was in lock step with America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and themselves.

Now their large influence is lost, they have gifted influence to Germany who could really go in any direction, stray from the US UK ideals.

Its a bad thing and ONLY happened because a bunch of working class scum hate brown people.

The UK had next to no influence: that whole thing is a complete myth; every time the UK expressed objections to something the EU was doing, they have been overruled; EU law directly undermines and contradicts the British common law and parliamentary supremacy (its entire political and legal tradition). The only thing being in the EU does is destroy British political and legal traditions, and replace them with EU/Continental top-down bureaucratic ones.

The whole thing has completely and utterly undermined what you call "US UK ideals" in the UK. Jury trial has been weakened, the presumption of innocence pushed aside, not to mention self-government and democratic accountability--these are UK "ideals" and part and parcel of their political and legal heritage, and yet all these things are continuously undermined by EU membership.

You aren't making ANY sense:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/p...cle4043642.ece

Freedom of information documents show that since records began in 1996, Britain has opposed 55 measures in the Council of Ministers and has been overruled 55 times.

Dat influence -- what a terrible loss. British interests are completely subsumed by EU ones. Britain is the most overruled country in the EU, and the process has only got worse and more obvious as the years have progressed:


http://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uplo...gure-1-Hix.png

Being in the EU doesn't protect British interests at all: it only ensures that the larger force will prevail over them, and exert a hegemonic influence on Britain; basically, Britain cannot change the EU (just think for a second here: since when does a marginal force on the periphery change the centre?), while the EU is clearly and obviously changing the UK for the worse.


edit: oh, nice to see that spoilt brat plutocratic elitism from you. Oh yeah, f*ck the working class and their interests, but worship the interests of the bureaucrats and corporatists in Brussels--hilarious. The poor can only be motivated by bigotry!!! What a f*cking idiot you are.


double edit: I think the responses of people on here is really quite enlightening as to what is motivating these fanatical multiculturalists and bureaucratic centralisers: complete and utter contempt for the working class, and a worship of the cult of the "expert" and the mythology of institutional independence. Noice! The world would be perfect if not for all the ignorant and bigoted rubes out there, amirite? If only everyone were oh-so-enlightened like yourself, we'd all be living in the land of plenty, living off a slave-labour force of migrants and Chinese people. Woooo!!!

[JtotheIzzo]

The UK had next to no influence: that whole thing is a complete myth; every time the UK expressed objections to something the EU was doing, they have been overruled; EU law directly undermines and contradicts the British common law and parliamentary supremacy (its entire political and legal tradition). The only thing being in the EU does is destroy British political and legal traditions, and replace them with EU/Continental top-down bureaucratic ones.

The whole thing has completely and utterly undermined what you call "US UK ideals" in the UK. Jury trial has been weakened, the presumption of innocence pushed aside, not to mention self-government and democratic accountability--these are UK "ideals" and part and parcel of their political and legal heritage, and yet all these things are continuously undermined by EU membership.

You aren't making ANY sense:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/p...cle4043642.ece



Dat influence -- what a terrible loss. British interests are completely subsumed by EU ones. Britain is the most overruled country in the EU, and the process has only got worse and more obvious as the years have progressed:


http://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uplo...gure-1-Hix.png

Being in the EU doesn't protect British interests at all: it only ensures that the larger force will prevail over them, and exert a hegemonic influence on Britain; basically, Britain cannot change the EU (just think for a second here: since when does a marginal force on the periphery change the centre?), while the EU is clearly and obviously changing the UK for the worse.


edit: oh, nice to see that spoilt brat plutocratic elitism from you. Oh yeah, f*ck the working class and their interests, but worship the interests of the bureaucrats and corporatists in Brussels--hilarious. The poor can only be motivated by bigotry!!! What a f*cking idiot you are.


double edit: I think the responses of people on here is really quite enlightening as to what is motivating these fanatical multiculturalists and bureaucratic centralisers: complete and utter contempt for the working class, and a worship of the cult of the "expert" and the mythology of institutional independence. Noice! The world would be perfect if not for all the ignorant and bigoted rubes out there, amirite? If only everyone were oh-so-enlightened like yourself, we'd all be living in the land of plenty, living off a slave-labour force of migrants and Chinese people. Woooo!!!

blah blah blah.

Brexit 'leave' campaign in a nutshell. A poster of a foreign land used strictly to instill fear and hatred.

[KyrieTheFuture]

blah blah blah.

Brexit 'leave' campaign in a nutshell. A poster of a foreign land used strictly to instill fear and hatred.

So, you have no intelligent response to his points?

[Dresta]

blah blah blah.

Brexit 'leave' campaign in a nutshell. A poster of a foreign land used strictly to instill fear and hatred.

So now that your ignorance has been exposed, and your arguments rubbished, you're resorting to childish cliches and crude generalisations to deny reality and force-fit the world into some neat little imaginary narrative you've built in your head. Awww, how cute; how unprejudiced you must be!

[Nick Young]

Someone has a brain!!!

All the countries are now under German influence, when they were pre-Brexit to be under German and UK influence.

The UK gifted German a 25% jump in power, and France will give another boost if they leave.

The UK sold low, and now they are in a position of weakness. They paid all the dues, helped the struggling countries, and when those countries bounce back and start paying dividens they will be long gone. No opportunities to enjoy the payback, be it cash or extra access.

Dumb dumb dumb

You need to stop getting your info from salon.com, bro.

Beacause you thought the Commonwealth was a free trade zone that Britain didn't previously particiapte in?

I've never seen you taking so many Ls in your own threads

You have gotten soft in your old age brah. Quite frankly, it's a bit pathetic for a 40 year old man to be attempting to troll in the childish manner that you are doing in here. Surely you have better things to do with your time these days. It's getting close to time for you to hang em up. You had a decent run but it's clearly over now.
No shame, you tried your best.

[Hawker]

I've never seen you taking so many Ls in your own threads

You have gotten soft in your old age brah. It's getting close to time for you to hang em up. You had a decent run but it's clearly over now.

He shouldn't be talking about politics other than his own country. He showed this when he thought there was a difference between congressmen and senators/representatives in the USA.

[Nick Young]

edit: oh, nice to see that spoilt brat plutocratic elitism from you. Oh yeah, f*ck the working class and their interests, but worship the interests of the bureaucrats and corporatists in Brussels--hilarious. The poor can only be motivated by bigotry!!! What a f*cking idiot you are.


double edit: I think the responses of people on here is really quite enlightening as to what is motivating these fanatical multiculturalists and bureaucratic centralisers: complete and utter contempt for the working class, and a worship of the cult of the "expert" and the mythology of institutional independence. Noice! The world would be perfect if not for all the ignorant and bigoted rubes out there, amirite? If only everyone were oh-so-enlightened like yourself, we'd all be living in the land of plenty, living off a slave-labour force of migrants and Chinese people. Woooo!!!

[poido123]

blah blah blah.

Brexit 'leave' campaign in a nutshell. A poster of a foreign land used strictly to instill awareness and commonsense.

Fixed.

[TheMan]

You simple little boy, the Commonwealth is a collection of nations that were ruled by Britain at one time. They have no legal obligation to each other.

how cute are you? awww

Savage

[JtotheIzzo]

So now that your ignorance has been exposed, and your arguments rubbished, you're resorting to childish cliches and crude generalisations to deny reality and force-fit the world into some neat little imaginary narrative you've built in your head. Awww, how cute; how unprejudiced you must be!

I blah blah blah'd you because you came with the same opld biased talking points that got the UK into this mess in the first place, and YES it is a mess, one that they will try and weasel out of, despite your visions of Great Britannia somehow going it alone and making themselves better for it.

Its a false bill of goods, being part of global treaties is the way forward, the UK has stepped into the past with the false belief that jobs will be there when the pollacks leave and everyone will be safe when the brown people are limited.

It is horseshit. The jobs aren't coming back. the Indians (Nick Young's UK savior) came in bought up the steel industry and then closed it down.

The UK SERIOUSLY lacks competititveness, being left adrift only further exasperates the situation.

The larger force doesn't rule over them, it makes them stronger.

Regarding the ignorant bigoted rubes, look at the vote and how it spread out, look at the campaign posters, even someone with Nick Young's knowledge could read between the lines.

Here is a microcosm of what people were voting for:

https://www.facebook.com/sarah.lebla...=3&pnref=story

[Akrazotile]

I blah blah blah'd you because you came with the same opld biased talking points that got the UK into this mess in the first place, and YES it is a mess, one that they will try and weasel out of, despite your visions of Great Britannia somehow going it alone and making themselves better for it.

Its a false bill of goods, being part of global treaties is the way forward, the UK has stepped into the past with the false belief that jobs will be there when the pollacks leave and everyone will be safe when the brown people are limited.

It is horseshit. The jobs aren't coming back. the Indians (Nick Young's UK savior) came in bought up the steel industry and then closed it down.

The UK SERIOUSLY lacks competititveness, being left adrift only further exasperates the situation.

The larger force doesn't rule over them, it makes them stronger.

Regarding the ignorant bigoted rubes, look at the vote and how it spread out, look at the campaign posters, even someone with Nick Young's knowledge could read between the lines.

Here is a microcosm of what people were voting for:

https://www.facebook.com/sarah.lebla...=3&pnref=story

How do small, homogeneous countries with low immigration like Iceland, Switzerland, Japan, Costa Rica, Finland etc. maintain a high quality of life and income equality without mass floods of immigration and lots of towelheads and big international unions?

If Britain cannot sustain itself without these things, how can they?

[JtotheIzzo]

You need to stop getting your info from salon.com, bro.


I've never seen you taking so many Ls in your own threads

You have gotten soft in your old age brah. Quite frankly, it's a bit pathetic for a 40 year old man to be attempting to troll in the childish manner that you are doing in here. Surely you have better things to do with your time these days. It's getting close to time for you to hang em up. You had a decent run but it's clearly over now.
No shame, you tried your best.

tell me more about this:

Have you heard of the Commonwealth bro? It's a trade bloc of 53 nations that the UK is apart of. Now it is finally able to trade freely with the Commonwealth nations again.

Didn't know the Commonwealth was a 'trade bloc', didn't know that Brexit allowed a scenario where the UK 'is finally able to trade freely with the Commonwealth nations again.'

Fascinating. Tell me more, I come from a Commonwealth country, had I known we were a trading bloc that was restricting our founder (the UK), I might have been against that.

Now I understand Brexit.

Is this what you can a W?

Did I get another L here?

[Nick Young]

How do small, homogeneous countries with low immigration like Iceland, Switzerland, Japan, Costa Rica, Finland etc. maintain a high quality of life and income equality without mass floods of immigration and lots of towelheads and big international unions?

If Britain cannot sustain itself without these things, how can they?

I've never seen an OP destroyed in their own thread as badly as ol' Jizzo has been ravaged in here

[JtotheIzzo]

I've never seen an OP destroyed in their own thread as badly as ol' Jizzo has been ravaged in here

Have you heard of the Commonwealth bro? It's a trade bloc of 53 nations that the UK is apart of. Now it is finally able to trade freely with the Commonwealth nations again.

[Akrazotile]

I've never seen an OP destroyed in their own thread as badly as ol' Jizzo has been ravaged in here

He didn't come prepared with anything more than shouting "y0ur all bigots! y0urr all big0ts!!!"

And it has not gone well for Mr. Jizzo. He's getting absolutely sniped to pieces by superior logic in this thread. It's been an execution by firing squad.

A sad day for a once proud ISH veteran.