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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
45:00 minute mark:
http://pc-cdn.espnradio.com/audio/30...c775d20961e8ca
REPORTER: Lebron had one of his best series in 09' against you guys.. Something like 38/8/8 or something
STAN VAN: Well, part of [COLOR="Red"]that was our plan[/COLOR], so blame it on me.. (goes on to explain how they virtually never doubled lebron or blitzed him on screens because they preferred him to score than pass)
They knew lebron didn't have the scoring ability to win the series by himself scoring-wise, so they let him score his maximum and shut down his teammates (a common strategy against Bron).
And that's the funniest part - Lebron was scoring his maximum under Stan's optimal conditions (no double teams and preferring him to score), yet he only averaged 38!!!!... .. MJ might've averaged 50 under those conditions (but he he never faced those conditions)
Ultimately, MJ is far greater because he averaged 8 assists in many series FROM GETTING DOUBLED... So Jordan's stats force the defense to make adjustments and wears them down, whereas Lebron's stats are achieved while the defense didn't make any adjustments and was comfortable/fresh.. And since he isn't getting doubled, some of his assists are suboptimal (forced)..
Obviously, Jordan's opponent has less capacity to get hot offensively, considering they're confused and getting worn down defensively from the adjustments... otoh, the magic weren't making any defensive adjustments or getting worn down, so they were fresh and got hot offensively.
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Last edited by 3ball; 08-25-2019 at 04:17 PM.
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College superstar
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
This has more to do with how garbage Lebron's supporting cast are. When your second option is Mo Williams, you ain't winning shit
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The GOATS
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Your preaching to choir. Exact same strategy they used for Dwade all the time. No one on here seems to understand this. This is literally the exact reason that Kobe and Jordan will always be better than Lebron and Wade. This strategy doesn't work on them
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Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
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Gif-ted
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Ordan highest playoff series - swept.
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Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
OP didn't have to do this. We knew already. A bunch of bran **** svcking alts claiming otherwise was never gonna change reality.
Retards live in their own little world. I will agree that trashing them once in a while is kinda fun.
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I don't flop.
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
How do you only score 38 when you've got the opposing team letting you score at will?
LeBron is trash.
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Lol
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
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Averaging 1.4 ppg
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Originally Posted by keep-itreal
This has more to do with how garbage Lebron's supporting cast are. When your second option is Mo Williams, you ain't winning shit
Mo Williams is a mini curry according to 3ball. Sounds promising.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Yup. I think this has been brought up several times now. The idea was to let LeBron get his and still win the series.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Mo Williams was good I don't know what you're talking about.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Originally Posted by keep-itreal
This has more to do with how garbage Lebron's supporting cast are. When your second option is Mo Williams, you ain't winning shit
[COLOR="Navy"]Mo Will 09' [COLOR="White"]j[/COLOR]ECF:[COLOR="White"]n.[/COLOR] 18.0 on 37.5%... lost vs 58-win team and #4 SRS[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Pippen 89' 1st Rd:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.0 on 39.7%... won vs 57-win team and #1 SRS[/COLOR]
More horrible series for Pippen (ALL WINS):
1992 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.0 on 40.2%
1996 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 34.3%
1997 RD 1 vs WAS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] vs. MIA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.8 on 41.7%
1998 ECF[COLOR="White"]S[/COLOR] vs[COLOR="White"]N[/COLOR] IND:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 41.0%
Oh, and:
MO[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] WILLIAMS[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 09':[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 18/3/5.. 58.8 ts.. 115 ortg.. 17.2 PER.. 0.165 ws/48.. 2.3 bpm.. 3.1 vorp
KHRIS MIDDLETON 19':[COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR] 18/6/4.. 55.5 ts.. 106 ortg.. 16.3 PER.. 0.122 ws/48.. 0.7 bpm.. 1.6 vorp
So Giannis and Lebron had comparable, 1-star casts, and 60-win favorites - but both failed to make the Finals despite being overwhelmingly expected to
This is a failure especially for Lebron, who was in his prime and in a conference where weak casts routinely made the Finals from 01-09' (5 times - 09' Dwight.. 07' Lebron.. 02/03 Kidd.. 01' AI).
Btw, don't give me bullshit about defense because those Cavs were great defensive teams - that was Mike Brown's calling card (that's how they took the Celts 7 games in 08', despite horrific play and efficiency from lebron)
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Last edited by 3ball; 08-25-2019 at 04:50 PM.
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Gif-ted
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Originally Posted by RRR3
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Lol
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
3shook will avoid this.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Here's audio of SVG saying the plan was to let Lebron score in 09' ECF
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