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    "So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, is something I very, very strongly support."
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49601678

    Hell, I'd go a step further with outright mass sterilization in areas with high crime, slavery, genocide, starvation, endless violence, mass rape, corruption and general misery everywhere in the region.

    In regions where people desperately want to leave their home for better places and/or pleading for help from the world, I think we should help them if they show a willingness to help themselves by holding off on bringing more children into the world they themselves are unhappy with.

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    you're self abstinence is already a sure bet birth control for this country

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    That prince Harry guy said he only wants to have '2 kids max' for the worlds sake yet all these poor people are tripling and quadrupling him up.

    I guess it fits in with the evolution of all life, the biggest most majestic species have only a couple offspring at a time while the lower you go theyre laying hundreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    That prince Harry guy said he only wants to have '2 kids max' for the worlds sake yet all these poor people are tripling and quadrupling him up.

    I guess it fits in with the evolution of all life, the biggest most majestic species have only a couple offspring at a time while the lower you go theyre laying hundreds.
    Your point is taken. But lil Harry is being disingenuous about his reasoning. His wife is older than him and his older bro's wife, she's already at the end of her child bearing years. Besides she's a Hollywood type with a social agenda being her #1 priority in life. She ain't producing a big litter of puppies whether he wants one or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    That prince Harry guy said he only wants to have '2 kids max' for the worlds sake yet all these poor people are tripling and quadrupling him up.

    I guess it fits in with the evolution of all life, the biggest most majestic species have only a couple offspring at a time while the lower you go theyre laying hundreds.
    prince harry and his family all have carbon footprints that are 100x the average brit, and probably 10000x the average third worlder. ill believe that the royal family cares about environment issues when they turn in all their yachts and mansions.

    and nothing about the royals fits with the concept of evolution. from an evolutionary perspective there is nothing that makes the royals any more "majestic" than any other person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong
    Your point is taken. But lil Harry is being disingenuous about his reasoning. His wife is older than him and his older bro's wife, she's already at the end of her child bearing years. Besides she's a Hollywood type with a social agenda being her #1 priority in life. She ain't producing a big litter of puppies whether he wants one or not.

    i didnt realize that chick was almost 40... christ. growing up in hollywood she must be a champ in bed

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    Bernie's best trait is how honest he is. He really doesn't care about "stepping in it", even at the expense of getting in the way of his own good headlines. Same thing as when he called for all Americans to be allowed to vote.

    I understand the climate part of this made some people's heads explode. The thing is, any Democrat who believes in repealing the Hyde Amendment (which is most of them in the field, including now even Lieden) has essentially bought into the framework of Bernie's argument already. If access to safe abortion is something that should be legal and accessible in your eyes, then why wouldn't that opportunity extend to people around the world, given how much aid we already provide?

    I don't want my tax money funding endless war, but it's still happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanners
    prince harry and his family all have carbon footprints that are 100x the average brit, and probably 10000x the average third worlder. ill believe that the royal family cares about environment issues when they turn in all their yachts and mansions.

    and nothing about the royals fits with the concept of evolution. from an evolutionary perspective there is nothing that makes the royals any more "majestic" than any other person.

    its more of an economic thing than anything that has to do with carbon footprint.

    there have been quite a few mass extinction events on this planet that totally shit on anything any one "royal family" could hope to accomplish by their consumption.

    yosemite could blow up and unleash 100 nukes worth of damage at anytime.

    in the short term, the world cant support poor people ****ing all day and then moving their starving families to places already riddled with debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    its more of an economic thing than anything that has to do with carbon footprint.

    there have been quite a few mass extinction events on this planet that totally shit on anything any one "royal family" could hope to accomplish by their consumption.

    yosemite could blow up and unleash 100 nukes worth of damage at anytime.

    in the short term, the world cant support poor people ****ing all day and then moving their starving families to places already riddled with debt.
    there have been quite a few mass extinction events, and every single one has been caused by natural phenomena...other than the current extinction event which is caused by technology and unchecked capitalism.

    the world can support tens of thousands of poor people for every one royal. personally I think we should get rid of royals before we start getting rid of the poors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanners
    there have been quite a few mass extinction events, [COLOR="Red"]and every single one has been caused by natural phenomena...[/COLOR]other than the current extinction event which is caused by technology and unchecked capitalism.

    the world can support tens of thousands of poor people for every one royal. personally I think we should get rid of royals before we start getting rid of the poors.

    thats the point though and why its so silly to worry about carbon footprint...

    people overestimate the power they have to destroy the planet compared to totally random, cataclysmic events.

    a random rock floating through space that is big enough and has a trajectory to hit us can do more damage than all of the technology and intelligence the human race took to even get to this point to start mass scale pollution.

    a single rock.

    so all you can worry about is the short term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    thats the point though and why its so silly to worry about carbon footprint...

    people overestimate the power they have to destroy the planet compared to totally random, cataclysmic events.

    a random rock floating through space that is big enough and has a trajectory to hit us can do more damage than all of the technology and intelligence the human race took to even get to this point to start mass scale pollution.

    a single rock.

    so all you can worry about is the short term.
    Carbon footprint may seem insignificant and minuscule on an individual basis but on a global basis, it adds up quickly. It's exponential growth. We don't think in that manner so it's difficult for us to process off numbers alone. All it means is that the rise in co2 levels speeds up as time goes by.

    There are many positive feedbacks building up this exponential growth, making matters worse for all of us.
    -The world population on average is relatively young if we look at population distribution in developing countries. As people get older, their energy needs/food needs/emissions/etc all increase over time. Add more vehicles too as population gets older
    -people live longer than ever before due to advances in medicine, vaccines, fewer wars, better nutrition & diet on average, etc. Child death rates are also plummeting so population growth is also growing exponentially.
    -adding co2 causes temperatures to rise. More the temperatures rise, the more ice caps melt, which releases more co2.
    -deforestation and more droughts/forest fires/storms/loss of plants,coral reefs/etc all ultimately cause co2 levels/temperature rise to speed up

    Before you know it, it adds up to hell on Earth.. Sure, it is not a short-term deal on the scale of an asteroid striking tomorrow, but to call it silly to worry about carbon footprint is problematic. It absolutely is not silly to push for carbon neutrality from our human end. Lets not be the cause for animal extinctions, icecaps melting, droughts/forest fires/storms/loss of plants,coral reefs/etc.

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    republicans aren't doing a primary = put all their marbles on Trump...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong
    Your point is taken. But lil Harry is being disingenuous about his reasoning. His wife is older than him and his older bro's wife, she's already at the end of her child bearing years. Besides she's a Hollywood type with a social agenda being her #1 priority in life. She ain't producing a big litter of puppies whether he wants one or not.
    In third world countries they tend to have alot of children because the mortality rate is high and many don't make it to adulthood. The need the kids to help support the family

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