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    Tag and trade him for a bunch of picks then.

    This roster would have been nice on a rookie QB contract. The offensive supporting cast is already in place for the QB, and those picks plus all that money they wouldn't have to give Dak could have been used to build a good defense before the rookie QB deal is up.

    Probably could have built the defense up as soon as this year considering you could have went out and got two big time starters with Daks cap hit.

    The problem with this Cowboys team isn't Dak, he's a good QB. It's the fact they don't have a defense and probably can't build one unless they hit the jackpot in the draft like the Seahawks did in the Richard Sherman draft where you are getting HOF type players in the fifth round.

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    IMO they're better off with an expensive but promising QB and zero cap room to improve their shitty defense, versus having a shit QB and enough cap space to sign two or three high end defensive free agents.

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    Last season one the biggest issues believe it or not was the offensive line. Actually last season was a disaster from top to bottom pretty much, I really can't even think of anything positive, I guess CeeDee Lamb looks like the stud he is supposed to be, that's about it.

    DeMarcus Lawrence is likely to be cut, if not cut it is a 100% certainty his contract will be restructured...he is $25m in cap space this coming year which is actually more than Dak will be.

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    The offensive line was hurt last year, they are presumably healthy to start this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanners View Post
    IMO they're better off with an expensive but promising QB and zero cap room to improve their shitty defense, versus having a shit QB and enough cap space to sign two or three high end defensive free agents.
    I agree with that, of course Dalton isn't the answer.

    But had they traded Dak to Carolina for example for the #8 and future first round and taken a guy like Justin Fields or Zach Wilson. Thats enticing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    Tag and trade him for a bunch of picks then.

    This roster would have been nice on a rookie QB contract. The offensive supporting cast is already in place for the QB, and those picks plus all that money they wouldn't have to give Dak could have been used to build a good defense before the rookie QB deal is up.

    Probably could have built the defense up as soon as this year considering you could have went out and got two big time starters with Daks cap hit.

    The problem with this Cowboys team isn't Dak, he's a good QB. It's the fact they don't have a defense and probably can't build one unless they hit the jackpot in the draft like the Seahawks did in the Richard Sherman draft where you are getting HOF type players in the fifth round.
    What team is going to pay a bunch of picks for Dak? Its a buyers market. The Eagles couldn't even get a guaranteed first for Wentz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    But had they traded Dak to Carolina for example for the #8 and future first round and taken a guy like Justin Fields or Zach Wilson. Thats enticing.
    its def possible that a trade like that works out in their favor, and it could ultimately put them over the top ... but its gotta be pretty damn hard to take that dive when you already have a young QB like Dak who has shown some flashes of greatness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Sheen View Post
    What team is going to pay a bunch of picks for Dak? Its a buyers market. The Eagles couldn't even get a guaranteed first for Wentz.
    Thats because the eagles destroyed Wentzs trade value

    The Rams just traded away 2 firsts, a third, and Goff to get Matt Stafford... plenty of teams will give up a bunch of picks for a good QB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanners View Post
    Thats because the eagles destroyed Wentzs trade value

    The Rams just traded away 2 firsts, a third, and Goff to get Matt Stafford... plenty of teams will give up a bunch of picks for a good QB
    The Rams and the Colts are out of the bidding. The Panthers would be bidding against who by offering this year's #8? Dak would enter a trade market where teams like Bears and Raiders are in a holding pattern Watson or Wilson to become officially available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~primetime~ View Post
    DeMarcus Lawrence is likely to be cut, if not cut it is a 100% certainty his contract will be restructured...he is $25m in cap space this coming year which is actually more than Dak will be.

    They restructured the offensive line's contract (Smith, Martin, and Collins)

    Cowboys offensive linemen Zack Martin, Tyron Smith and La'el Collins have agreed to restructure their contracts ahead of the 2021 season, according to ESPN's Todd Archer. The restructures will clear roughly $17 million in salary cap space.

    I think D-Law would be on the chopping block next year if he doesn't give us double digit sacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas View Post
    DeMarcus Lawrence DE $25,000,000
    Dak Prescott QB $22,200,000
    Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000
    Zack Martin G $17,018,000
    Tyron Smith LT $14,025,000
    Ezekiel Elliott RB $13,700,000
    La'el Collins RT $12,050,000
    Jaylon Smith ILB $9,800,000
    Anthony Brown CB $5,750,000
    Blake Jarwin TE $4,546,875
    Leighton Vander Esch OLB $3,769,748
    CeeDee Lamb WR $3,184,094
    Connor Williams G $2,960,998
    Greg Zuerlein K $2,833,333
    Michael Gallup WR $2,665,495
    Chris Jones P $2,500,000
    Dalton Schultz TE $2,296,092
    Jamize Olawale FB $1,750,000
    Trevon Diggs CB $1,436,570
    Trysten Hill DT $1,328,175
    Darian Thompson FS $1,293,750
    Dorance Armstrong DE $1,087,499
    Neville Gallimore DT $1,063,739
    Tony Pollard RB $1,016,945
    Connor McGovern G $1,000,527
    Randy Gregory DE $1,000,000
    Reggie Robinson CB $962,318
    Tyler Biadasz C $903,600
    Donovan Wilson S $881,839
    Brandon Knight RT $851,668
    Terence Steele LT $783,333

    DeMarcus Lawrence DE $25,000,000
    Dak Prescott QB $22,200,000
    Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000
    Zack Martin G $9,968,000
    Tyron Smith LT $7,350,000
    Ezekiel Elliott RB $13,700,000
    La'el Collins RT $6,800,000
    Jaylon Smith ILB $9,800,000
    Anthony Brown CB $5,750,000
    Blake Jarwin TE $4,546,875
    Leighton Vander Esch OLB $3,769,748
    CeeDee Lamb WR $3,184,094
    Connor Williams G $2,960,998
    Greg Zuerlein K $2,833,333
    Michael Gallup WR $2,665,495
    Chris Jones P $2,500,000
    Dalton Schultz TE $2,296,092
    Jamize Olawale FB $1,750,000
    Trevon Diggs CB $1,436,570
    Trysten Hill DT $1,328,175
    Darian Thompson FS $1,293,750
    Dorance Armstrong DE $1,087,499
    Neville Gallimore DT $1,063,739
    Tony Pollard RB $1,016,945
    Connor McGovern G $1,000,527
    Randy Gregory DE $1,000,000
    Reggie Robinson CB $962,318
    Tyler Biadasz C $903,600
    Donovan Wilson S $881,839
    Brandon Knight RT $851,668
    Terence Steele LT $783,333

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/

    $20 million in cap space.

    Although the salary cap limit is suppose to be lowered to $182.5 million so idk how much space we have.



    2022

    Dak Prescott QB $33,200,000 15.00 %
    DeMarcus Lawrence DE $27,000,000 12.20 %
    Amari Cooper WR $22,000,000 9.94 %
    Zack Martin G $20,209,000 9.13 %
    Tyron Smith LT $17,505,000 7.91 %
    Ezekiel Elliott RB $16,500,000 7.45 %
    La'el Collins RT $15,250,000 6.89 %
    Jaylon Smith ILB $11,800,000 5.33 %

    $161 million, 73.85% of the cap.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/2022/

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    Meanwhile the Pats got Cam for 14 mil and
    About $6 million of the deal is tied to incentives

    Give Cam all the weapons Dak has had plus 25 mil to spend on other players. https://giphy.com/gifs/nfl-newton-ca...UQIDkDJzRu6mzF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    Tag him and prove he's worth the price coming off a big injury. I think someone from Philly would understand this concept seeing as their team had to swallow the biggest dead cal hit in a trade ever by giving Wentz a big extension prematurely.
    And what if he does prove himself? I'm assuming that the Cowboys worked him out and don't have any major concerns about his long-term health. If Dallas tags him in 2021 he counts 37.68 million against the cap, fully guaranteed. After the season, the Cowboys can either let him walk as an unrestricted free agent and get into bidding wars with every other team that thinks they're a QB away from being a contender, or they could franchise for the third season in a row. The cost of that third tag would be a little over $54 million. All fully guaranteed, and all counting directly against the 2022 cap.

    Jerry Jones screwed up by not getting a deal in place with Dak after the 2019 season. He kept trying to "win" the negotiations by insisting on a five year deal, but Dak had all the leverage and wasn't going to budge off of four years. A deal signed after the 2019 season would have saved the Cowboys a few million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy View Post
    Meanwhile the Pats got Cam for 14 mil and
    About $6 million of the deal is tied to incentives

    Give Cam all the weapons Dak has had plus 25 mil to spend on other players. https://giphy.com/gifs/nfl-newton-ca...UQIDkDJzRu6mzF
    The Patriots got Cam for that price because he had a terrible year in 2020. He finished 30th out of 33 eligible players in QBR, and that's a statistic that takes into account his running yards. He threw for 8 TDs and 10 interceptions. He was so ineffective that he was actually pulled in the middle of a few games and replaced with his backup. If you put him on the Cowboys he'd be better, sure. But not that much better. He's still not taking them to the playoffs unless the rest of the East is as pathetic as it was last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baudkarma View Post
    And what if he does prove himself? I'm assuming that the Cowboys worked him out and don't have any major concerns about his long-term health. If Dallas tags him in 2021 he counts 37.68 million against the cap, fully guaranteed. After the season, the Cowboys can either let him walk as an unrestricted free agent and get into bidding wars with every other team that thinks they're a QB away from being a contender, or they could franchise for the third season in a row. The cost of that third tag would be a little over $54 million. All fully guaranteed, and all counting directly against the 2022 cap.

    Jerry Jones screwed up by not getting a deal in place with Dak after the 2019 season. He kept trying to "win" the negotiations by insisting on a five year deal, but Dak had all the leverage and wasn't going to budge off of four years. A deal signed after the 2019 season would have saved the Cowboys a few million.
    This 100%

    Jerry should have signed Dak a long time a ago....would have been a big deal at the time but overall would have been a much better deal for Dallas.

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