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11-23-2023, 09:54 AM
#151
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://www.ksl.com/article/50798279...ss-to-portland
It gave Utah more size, Olynyk's a better stylistic fit next to Lauri Markkanen, and it freed up some minutes for Omer Yurtseven, who was coming off an 18-point performance the night before.
more size doesn't help them defensively unless its on the wing and Agbaji is really the only one they got there until Sensabaugh and maybe Hendricks are ready. Already looked like Collins would have to move to the bench with Olynyk with Kessler returning. Danny fix this! Hardy is out of his league
That was one of many hints from Hardy Wednesday that rotation changes could be coming for the Jazz. Before the game, he said things had reached a point that if players aren't willing to both pass and play hard, they won't be playing for the Jazz.
the problem is some people like The Bum can't pass even if you force him to
That was one of many hints from Hardy Wednesday that rotation changes could be coming for the Jazz. Before the game, he said things had reached a point that if players aren't willing to both pass and play hard, they won't be playing for the Jazz.
Dunn played good and he does play hard and unselfish but of course Hardy went away from him again. Until he does something about their biggest problem The Bum it's all just a bunch of hot air
Hardy said the team has moments of stubbornness — evidenced by aimless drives from guards (Jordan Clarkson had seven turnovers Wednesday, Talen Horton-Tucker had three and Collin Sexton had two) and too much shot-hunting — that can be maddening.
that's The Bum's game. You've tried to change him and what he needs to do doesn't come natural to him and he's not going to be able to change at his age. The other two are at least young with upside
There aren't obvious fixes, either. After a marvelous preseason, Dunn has struggled to start the year, and Hardy is reluctant to give Keyonte George more minutes as he adjusts to an NBA workload.
There are obvious fixes. Dunn has hardly played enough to say he's struggled. Played their best ball in pre-season when he was in. He defends and he can run the offense. He should be starting or backing up Keyonte period.
"It's going to continue to bite us if we don't correct those things, and we don't show a willingness to just take the simple plays that are right in front of us," Hardy said. "I do think our team is capable of playing good basketball. I think that we've seen that throughout the early part of the year, even in a couple of games that we didn't end up winning."
I do to but not as long as you think The Bum is their best player when he's actually one of the worst I've seen in almost 45 years of watching
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11-23-2023, 09:59 AM
#152
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/22/2...de-the-numbers
Worst of the worst: Jordan Clarkson, while efficient in his shooting, was the worst offender when it came to turnovers, committing seven of the Jazz’s 24 miscues.
and the media outside one guy and the broadcasters talk him up like he is the second coming. It's sickening! Just an awful excuse for a ball player
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11-24-2023, 11:01 AM
#153
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://thejnotes.com/posts/taylor-h...d-01hfwgwcw2cs
The highly touted, uber-athletic forward is struggling to find his way with the Utah Jazz G-League affiliate, the Utah Stars. Hendricks has not been an impactful player for the squad, averaging just 13.8 points, 4.6 rebounds, 1.2 assists (but 2.0 blocks), all in just 26.4 minutes per game.
watch the games. He looks fine and a lot better than Agbaji did last year. I'd guess he'll be in the rotation by trade deadline
And if that wasn't bad enough, he's doing it all on subpar shooting splits. Hendricks, so far for the G-League club, his shooting splits are just .418/.357/.778. He's got a great three-point shot for a man in his posititon, that's not untrue, but he's struggling to make your more standard two-pointer. And as he's a lob threat with supposedly great skills to score inside, that's concerning.
just turned 20 I think. I'm not concerned at all. Sounds smart and looks it on the floor as well. I was concerned about Agbaji last year after 4 years of college and he's turned out fine
He's also turning the ball over a lot for a non-ball-handler, putting it on the floor more than twice a game.
one of their key players. Once he's on the Jazz he'll be more of a role player at least initially
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11-24-2023, 11:05 AM
#154
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://thejnotes.com/posts/brice-se...z-01hfwwwvrqch
Brice Sensabaugh's time in the G-League should merit minutes for the Utah Jazz
despite stats I'd say Hendricks will help them before Sensabaugh. He can play a role sooner. They'll probably both be playing after the trade deadline
And then there was Sensabaugh, a guy who just was there at times. No one had any high hopes for him, and most thought he may be part of a trade package to land a major name. He didn't make the rotation for the Jazz and only saw a handful of minutes early in the season during garbage time.
they should have. Sounds like he was considered a lottery talent too. His injury had him fall. Best scorer and shooter of the bunch and now showing playmaking as well
Yes, its against G-League competition but that's one heck of a stat line. In fact, it's so dang impressive, that it's fair to say that Sensabaugh, and not George, should be getting the shot to start for the Jazz. The Jazz need good scoring, from guys who aren't wildly inconsistent. Not only has his shot been consistent since arriving with the Stars, but Sensabaugh has been a very helpful defender.
what do you think George would be doing against Gleaguers? ![Roll](images/smilies/roll.gif)
At this rate, Sensabaugh's going to need to be called up soon to play for the big league squad.
who's sitting? Until Ainge clears some guys off the roster he will be with the Stars
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11-24-2023, 11:08 AM
#155
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://thejnotes.com/posts/talen-ho...r-01hfwfghg9ga
The Bum yes. Talen or Sexton if not both yes. Olynyk or Collins if not both yes.Talen is young. Not ready to throw him under the bus. Kessler/Lauri/Agbaji/George/Hendricks/Sensabaugh are the guys you should be looking at as the core. Obviously the coach doesn't feel that way though. Ainge has to fix it
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11-25-2023, 09:43 AM
#156
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/24/2...-losing-streak
The Jazz held a long practice on Friday, focusing mostly on their defensive issues.
starts with the coaching. Trying to play 3 bigs. Starting a 6th man and a rookie. Crashing the offensive glass instead of getting back in transition D. Refusing to play your best defender...
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11-25-2023, 09:47 AM
#157
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/11/24/2...keyonte-george
Just like a broken record for the 2023-24 Utah Jazz team, the lack of playmaking was their biggest plague once again. The assist numbers of the squad won’t indicate that because they rank eight (26.9) among the league in this category. George has shown enough flashes to be bullish in his table-setting, but the concern is which player can replicate or show some semblance of it in the Jazz roster?
Dunn. Also your best defender
Zooming into the guards of the Jazz second unit, we can say that both Talen Horton-Tucker and Collin Sexton are not primary ball handlers in nature. Unfortunately, the current team construction has forced head coach Will Hardy to give them playmaking reps, which has been messy overall. To see them have a hard time against the 19th rated defense should lower your confidence even more.
He's not forced. George and Dunn
What hurts more in these instances is that they are live ball turnovers, which enables the opposition to run while the defense isn’t set properly. Assess how easy the Blazers capitalized on a Jordan Clarkson mishandle. I’ll leave it to your subjective mind.
Typical play by the Hardy's favorite player
Another challenge for the Jazz this season has been defending in the half court. They really don’t have the luxury of having good point of attack (POA) defenders, which is compounded with the absence of Walker Kessler at the paint.
Dunn
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11-25-2023, 09:55 AM
#158
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://thejnotes.com/posts/it-s-a-a...z-01hg1fgqbmp3
Will Hardy recently made comments to the media that seem to indicate that some major changes were coming to the Utah Jazz? The Jazz is 4-11 and one of if not the worst teams in the league right now. The team is plagued by selfish play, incompatible defensive components, and a head coach who doesn't seem to have any urgency to make changes to the team.
The roster is a mess and the coach is in over his head
The Jazz are a team that is constantly searching for an identity, one that may be better served by not having Jordan Clarkson as their number two player. The shooting guard has done that and only that throughout the season, putting up some of the worst shooting performances of his career while trying to be the team's running buddy next to Lauri Markkanen.
The fact that everyone thinks The Bum doesn't suck is beyond me
Yet, his inconsistent shot and nonexistent defense are killing the team's chances of winning each and every night. His poor play on both ends of the court is really only overshadowed by his chronic turnover problem. Anyone with two eyes would've sat him down weeks into the season after a handful of games. After all, we know Clarkson can be a big factor off the bench as a sixth man, but for some reason, Hardy keeps feeling the need to force him as a starter and let him shoot at will.
years not weeks
This has shown many fans that Hardy isn't' willing to make the big calls when it comes to bettering the team, but who knows, maybe this is on Danny Ainge. The right call was to sit guys like Clarkson on the bench weeks ago, and send Talen Horton-Tucker to the end of the bench where he couldn't cause any more damage.
The front office certainly deserves blame for hiring the coach, trading for Collins(who is one of their best players but 3 bigs wasn't the answer to a team that sucked on D) and giving an extension to The Bum
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11-25-2023, 09:58 AM
#159
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://thejnotes.com/posts/will-har...e-01hg1fngeqp4
Clearly the Jazz has players who don't. Guys like Jordan Clarkson, Talen Horton-Tucker, and even Collin Sexton all come to mind as guys who don't seem to care. While Sexton has shown to be a dynamic scorer, he doesn't pass but he's highly efficient shooting the ball. But he also doesn't play defense.
Sexton plays hard and like Talen is young with upside. The love of The Bum I will never understand
Then you have Clarkson and Horton-Tucker, who even at their best version of themselves, don't play defense and aren't that consistent while scoring. Then you throw into the fact that both men can have five to seven turnovers a game on a whim, and it makes you wonder what it is they're doing, because playing good basketball isn't it.
Talen's defensive potential is one of the things they like about him and he's shown some improvement there I'd say
We've seen John Collins absolutely struggle to play consistent good defense, in fact he's one of the worst rated defenders on the team, right alongside Sexton, Clarkson and Keyonte George. The team has too many players who care too much about their stast and not enough on plaing team basketball on either side of the court.
playing 3 bigs, A Bum and a rookie. What did you think would happen?
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11-26-2023, 05:34 PM
#160
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
and ball movement. What changed?
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11-26-2023, 09:36 PM
#161
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
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11-26-2023, 10:14 PM
#162
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
Good game for Potter. Hendricks and Sensabaugh struggled. Christopher out
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11-27-2023, 07:07 AM
#163
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://thejnotes.com/posts/kris-dun...o-01hg6gjwjbv1
Kris Dunn, and not Keyonte George, should be starting going forward fo
I agree and if playing unselfish and hard is what Hardy really wants he would have been all along but we know Dunn will be back at the end of the bench once The Bum is back. He didn't even play that much last game and him and Yurtseven were their best players. He's probably their best defender by far and one of the best in the league and he can run the offense and George could learn behind him until he's ready
The Jazz are not a team that can afford to sit their best defensive players, even if it means that a rookie sits, and if the team is deadset on playing Jordan Clarkson as a starter, then the Jazz have to sit George for Dunn. Dunn is better right now in every aspet, and George has shown to be a poor shot selector and just as wild passing the ball as Clarkson is.
he's taken care of the ball pretty well. He's not a Bum. The Bum will of course still play as he's obviously Hardy's favorite player. Hopefully Ainge fixes this shit sooner than later
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11-28-2023, 07:07 AM
#164
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/27/2...de-the-numbers
Best of the best: Jordan Clarkson had ten assists and just one turnover on a night when the Pelicans were really denying some of the Jazz’s normal playmakers.
no mention of his godawful gunning though as usual
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11-28-2023, 04:11 PM
#165
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2023-24 NBA Season
Not Sensabaugh's best outing. A lot of TO's again. Hendricks got a double double with some steals and blocks but didn't shoot well. Potter and Juzand were pretty good but like the Jazz lots of TO's. Devoe continues to be someone to keep an eye on
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