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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by tpols
I mean Ray saved his ass in that series and broke the Spurs spirit. Lebrons numbers pre and post Ray Allen shot are night and day different.
Not everybody can be perfect bro. Lebron is a way better overall player and talent than Murray. But he's not even remotely as clutch as him.
Are you talking about the game when LeBron went 7/11 in the 4th Q with 16 points and almost single handedly brought back the Heat into the game? Not to mention his 3, which actually made Allen's 3 possible?
If you think LeBron's not clutch, Kobe is dog shit compared to him.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by aj1987
Are you talking about the game when LeBron went 7/11 in the 4th Q with 16 points and almost single handedly brought back the Heat into the game? Not to mention his 3, which actually made Allen's 3 possible?
If you think LeBron's not clutch, Kobe is dog shit compared to him.
I would take Jamal Murray for a gamewinner over Lebron and Kobe. Kobe is too arrogant and Lebron is too cowardly. In that regard Murray is the perfect in between.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by tpols
I would take Jamal Murray for a gamewinner over Lebron and Kobe. Kobe is too arrogant and Lebron is too cowardly. In that regard Murray is the perfect in between.
Same old tpols. The game you were talking about, LeBron took 3 shots in the final seconds and made one. Too cowardly though.
Did you actually ever watch LeBron play?
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by aj1987
Same old tpols. The game you were talking about, LeBron took 3 shots in the final seconds and made one. Too cowardly though.
Did you actually ever watch LeBron play?
yeah he played hot potato when guarded by steph curry in the finals to defer to george hill
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
LeBron literally did in his first playoff series ever back in 2006 what Murray did this series. He hit two game winning baskets against the Wizards, but considering they were layups, they don't count in the delusional minds of haters and critics. The goal posts always move when LeBron does something positive. Then we have his historic game 5 performance against the Pistons the very next season in 2007 where again, he scored the game winning basket with 2 seconds left. But again, it was a layup, so technically it wasn't "clutch" either according to the critics. Also, LeBron literally has the most playoff buzzer beater game winning shots in NBA history with most of them being jump shots and three pointers. But those don't count either in some deranged LeBron hating world.
Murray proved that he can be very clutch this series, and probably even more clutch in the 2024 first round than a 39 year old LeBron who is the oldest player in the league, but Murray has a long way to go before he can match the clutch or at least, the game winning clutch shot resume of LeBron.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by jlip
LeBron literally did in his first playoff series ever back in 2006 what Murray did this series. He hit two game winning baskets against the Wizards, but considering they were layups, they don't count in the delusional minds of haters and critics. The goal posts always move when LeBron does something positive. Then we have his historic game 5 performance against the Pistons the very next season in 2007 where again, he scored the game winning basket with 2 seconds left. But again, it was a layup, so technically it wasn't "clutch" either according to the critics. Also, LeBron literally has the most playoff buzzer beater game winning shots in NBA history with most of them being jump shots and three pointers. But those don't count either in some deranged LeBron hating world.
Murray proved that he can be very clutch this series, and probably even more clutch in the 2024 first round than a 39 year old LeBron who is the oldest player in the league, but Murray has a long way to go before he can match the clutch or at least, the game winning clutch shot resume of LeBron.
He also has the most playoff games played by a good amount.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by j3lademaster
Rings are circumstantial. Kobe’s argument over Lebron is literally 5 rings > 4 but he won one averaging 15 ppg on 38% in the finals.
He was 21 years old. Lebron averaged 17.8ppg on 48% shooting in the finals as 26 year old
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by jlip
LeBron literally did in his first playoff series ever back in 2006 what Murray did this series. He hit two game winning baskets against the Wizards, but considering they were layups, they don't count in the delusional minds of haters and critics. The goal posts always move when LeBron does something positive. Then we have his historic game 5 performance against the Pistons the very next season in 2007 where again, he scored the game winning basket with 2 seconds left. But again, it was a layup, so technically it wasn't "clutch" either according to the critics. Also, LeBron literally has the most playoff buzzer beater game winning shots in NBA history with most of them being jump shots and three pointers. But those don't count either in some deranged LeBron hating world.
Murray proved that he can be very clutch this series, and probably even more clutch in the 2024 first round than a 39 year old LeBron who is the oldest player in the league, but Murray has a long way to go before he can match the clutch or at least, the game winning clutch shot resume of LeBron.
Using the age excuse doesn't work when you're coddled, pampered, and pumped with PEDs.
Lebron is still out here producing like he did in his prime. Out running and out jumping everybody. And especially Jokic and taped up Murray dunking on his ass.
Oh... and whats the non existant common denominator between 2006 and 2007 and this year?
He LOST.
We finna get yall some clown shoes and a red nose ball.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by RachlNicholsazz
He was 21 years old. Lebron averaged 17.8ppg on 48% shooting in the finals as 26 year old
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by RachlNicholsazz
He was 21 years old. Lebron averaged 17.8ppg on 48% shooting in the finals as 26 year old
And can you imagine if he won it that year and Lebron fans take that and say '5 rings > 4'?
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by jlip
LeBron literally did in his first playoff series ever back in 2006 what Murray did this series. He hit two game winning baskets against the Wizards, but considering they were layups, they don't count in the delusional minds of haters and critics. The goal posts always move when LeBron does something positive. Then we have his historic game 5 performance against the Pistons the very next season in 2007 where again, he scored the game winning basket with 2 seconds left. But again, it was a layup, so technically it wasn't "clutch" either according to the critics. Also, LeBron literally has the most playoff buzzer beater game winning shots in NBA history with most of them being jump shots and three pointers. But those don't count either in some deranged LeBron hating world.
Murray proved that he can be very clutch this series, and probably even more clutch in the 2024 first round than a 39 year old LeBron who is the oldest player in the league, but Murray has a long way to go before he can match the clutch or at least, the game winning clutch shot resume of LeBron.
I also seem to recall that some of these same haters and critics vehemently arguing that shots aren't clutch if the score is tied.
Ironically the case with both of Murray's shots in this series.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by tpols
Using the age excuse doesn't work when you're coddled, pampered, and pumped with PEDs.
Lebron is still out here producing like he did in his prime. Out running and out jumping everybody. And especially Jokic and taped up Murray dunking on his ass.
Oh... and whats the non existant common denominator between 2006 and 2007 and this year?
He LOST.
We finna get yall some clown shoes and a red nose ball.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by tpols
Using the age excuse doesn't work when you're coddled, pampered, and pumped with PEDs.
Lebron is still out here producing like he did in his prime. Out running and out jumping everybody. And especially Jokic and taped up Murray dunking on his ass.
Oh... and whats the non existant common denominator between 2006 and 2007 and this year?
He LOST.
We finna get yall some clown shoes and a red nose ball.
That does not happen in Lebron's prime. He gets over a step quicker and up higher to contest.
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by TheMan
This LeBron sounds like an amazing clutch player Given that he's been balling for two decades, he must surely have, what, 6, 7 rings at least?
I'm pretty sure he would if his teams were always better than his comp like some specific player.....
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Re: Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I was actually expecting you to say meltdown, nice to see you change it up with mad instead. First, to your original point, we have both stats and the eye test that shows Curry is extraordinarily unclutch, I think he's 0/14 on GW shots in the playoffs. Second, even if you removed his post 2012 stats, LeBron's elimination game numbers would still be far better than Kobe's.
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