prime dirk vs current durant?

[DMAVS41]

Jason Terry outplayed Lebron in the Finals. If Dirk won with scrubs then what did the Heat have outside of Wade?

list the countless choke jobs please...

[GoranDragon]

Jason Terry outplayed Lebron in the Finals. If Dirk won with scrubs then what did the Heat have outside of Wade?

Tell me you're not implying the Heat isn't stacked as sh1t.

If I recall, Dallas was the underdog of that series while people were 50/50 on Durant vs Lebron. We all know what happened, Dirk overcame the odds and Durant fall short.

So prime Dirk vs current Durant isn't even an argument, prime Dirk would murk prime Durant even.

[navy]

Tell me you're not implying the Heat isn't stacked as sh1t.

If I recall, Dallas was the underdog of that series while people were 50/50 on Durant vs Lebron. We all know what happened, Dirk overcame the odds and Durant fall short.

So prime Dirk vs current Durant isn't even an argument, prime Dirk would murk prime Durant even.

No. Use context clues and your head. You claimed Dirk won the finals playing with scrubs. If Jason Terry is a scrub then Lebron was worse then a scrub in that series because Jason Terry outplayed Lebron.

Dirk's only ring came from the biggest chokejob from in modern history. That is not a proven winner. He has only won once. Durant had better numbers in the finals then Dirk did, the only difference is Lebron actually showed up for that one.




and lol at you bringing up coaches and family to justify that choke job.

Remember the 2006 finals when everyone was saying it was rigged to make the Heat win? You know what was funny about that series? The paid refs gave dirk a bailout call in game 3 and go up 3-0. And he choked the tying freethrow.
0:09 Dallas full timeout
0:03 95-97 Udonis Haslem shooting foul (Dirk Nowitzki draws the foul)
0:03 Dirk Nowitzki makes free throw 1 of 2 96-97
0:03 Dirk Nowitzki misses free throw 2 of 2 96-97

A 90% freethrow shooter?

[DMAVS41]

No. Use context clues and your head. You claimed Dirk won the finals playing with scrubs. If Jason Terry is a scrub then Lebron was worse then a scrub in that series because Jason Terry outplayed Lebron.

Dirk's only ring came from the biggest chokejob from in modern history. That is not a proven winner. He has only won once. Durant had better numbers in the finals then Dirk did, the only difference is Lebron actually showed up for that one.




and lol at you bringing up coaches and family to justify that choke job.

Remember the 2006 finals when everyone was saying it was rigged to make the Heat win? You know what was funny about that series? The paid refs gave dirk a bailout call in game 3 and go up 3-0. And he choked the tying freethrow.
0:09 Dallas full timeout
0:03 95-97 Udonis Haslem shooting foul (Dirk Nowitzki draws the foul)
0:03 Dirk Nowitzki makes free throw 1 of 2 96-97
0:03 Dirk Nowitzki misses free throw 2 of 2 96-97

A 90% freethrow shooter?

So missing a free throw is a countless choke job? You could do the same for every single player in history.

Family? Yes...that series is a total anomaly...and there were circumstances both on and off the court that led to it. None of that would matter if Dirk had played like that multiple times in his career. But he didn't...it was a total fluke. He faced his old coach and a team that played a style horrible for the 07 Mavs, Avery Johnson lost his mind, Dirk was not himself the last month of the year, and he was worried he might lose his father during the ****ing series...LOL. Yea...lets ignore all that and pretend like it was just some normal series. Not to mention how much better the Warriors were than their actual record as well.

But that is besides the point. Where are the countless choke jobs? Don't run and hide...

Dirk missed the free throw in that game...yet he made a shot over Shaq in game 5 with 9 seconds left to go up 1. Played great in game 6 while it was Terry that choked.

And it's really hard to call anything in 06 negative because the Mavs never should have gotten out of the 2nd round. They were road dogs playing the Spurs at the height of their powers. So why not bring that up? That Dirk had 37/15 in a road game 7 in SA and made the game saving 3 point play to send the game to OT.

So...so far we have. Dirk missing a ft in the finals in 06...a year in which he was a road underdog to get out of the 2nd round. And the 07 series (which was awful for sure) under anomaly type circumstances.

You really consider that countless? LOL

You just bought into the BS narrative about Dirk. Did you know that the Mavs have actually over-achieved in the playoffs more often than underachieving? That the only two times the Mavs didn't advance farther in the playoffs than expected was 07 and 10. And in 10 they lost to a Spurs team absolutely no worse than the Mavs in any way...a series in which Dirk averaged 27/8/3 64.3% TS. Every other year the Mavs either upset a team to advance farther than they should have...or lost as an underdog.

On your criteria, a guy like Larry Bird is an absolute joke...

[navy]

So missing a free throw is a countless choke job? You could do the same for every single player in history.

Family? Yes...that series is a total anomaly...and there were circumstances both on and off the court that led to it.

Dirk missed the free throw in that game...yet he made a shot over Shaq in game 5 with 9 seconds left to go up 1. Played great in game 6 while it was Terry that choked.

And it's really hard to call anything in 06 negative because the Mavs never should have gotten out of the 2nd round. They were road dogs playing the Spurs at the height of their powers. So why not bring that up? That Dirk had 37/15 in a road game 7 in SA and made the game saving 3 point play to send the game to OT.

So...so far we have. Dirk missing a ft in the finals in 06...a year in which he was a road underdog to get out of the 2nd round. And the 07 series (which was awful for sure) under anomaly type circumstances.

You really consider that countless? LOL

Did the Spurs choke game 6 of the 2013 finals? Hell yes.

Didnt Dirk foul Wade late in Game 5? It was a legitimate call as well. As i know people will say that series was rigged.

Ill concede on the "countless' adjective. But to sit here any say Dirk is a proven winner after 1 win out of 10ish playoffs appearance is dumb.

[DMAVS41]

Did the Spurs choke game 6 of the 2013 finals? Hell yes.

Didnt Dirk foul Wade late in Game 5? It was a legitimate call as well. As i know people will say that series was rigged.


Ill concede on the "countless' adjective. But to sit here any say Dirk is a proven winner after 1 win out of 10ish playoffs appearance is dumb.

I was addressing your "countless"...which you have rightfully retreated from because you talked out of your ass...LOL

Yes, Wade was fouled and I don't think the series was rigged. I think it was just horrible reffing and terrible rules. Wade was fouled...after he ran over half the team and was impossible to guard given the joke rules.

Proven winner? Well, I'd say yes. 11 straight 50 win seasons (only Russell, Magic/Kareem, and Duncan have done this) with totally different coaches and rosters. Had his team on a 50 win pace last year when he played. Has his team on a similar pace this year. Take a look at what Kevin Love is doing in his prime with a roster that is actually probably slightly better than the current Mavs. Yes...Dirk is a winner...his impact goes beyond his already great numbers...and his ability to consistently win with all different kinds of rosters is evidence of that.

Over-achieved more in the playoffs than his teams under-achieved.

One of the best elimination game players ever. Undefeated in game 7's (5-0)

Made the finals twice and the WCF three times. Only team other than the Shaq/Kobe Lakers and Duncan Spurs to make the finals from 99 through 11.

Won a title without an all-star or all-nba player (very rare historically)

One of the best win percentages of his era despite all the other star players playing with way more help other than KG.

How does that not add up to being a "winner"??????

[Random_Guy]

bump, was going to at the end of the season but forgot about it.
shit is much more interesting after kd's phenomenal season, but his underwhelming performance sorta sticks out. kd still has the chance to turn it around doe, especially with game 4 up in 30 min.