Lebron craters the apg and assist % of his teammates

[3ball]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/significant

Significant:

large enough to be noticed or have an effect

Wade's assists declined 35% alongside Lebron.

Mo Williams' assists declined 40% alongside Lebron.

Bosh's assists declined 25% alongside Lebron and Love's declined 12%.

Kyrie's assists declined 12% alongside Lebron.


EVERYONE'S assists declined alongside Lebron, and of these differences would be defined as "significant"... Otoh, Pippen's assists INCREASED 20% alongside Jordan.

[kshutts1]

Better teammates?... Wade > Pippen.... and Bosh/Love/Kyrie are better than any other teammate MJ ever had.

Your response makes no sense and doesn't refute the statistical reality that:

1) Lebron significantly reduces the assists of teammates (Wade/Bosh/Love/Mo/Kyrie)
2) All of his teams for his entire 11-year career had very low assist frequency.
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Reading comprehension fail. Wow.

[Hey Yo]

Wade's assists declined 35% alongside Lebron.

Mo Williams' assists declined 40% alongside Lebron.

Bosh's assists declined 25% alongside Lebron and Love's declined 12%.

Kyrie's assists declined 12% alongside Lebron.


EVERYONE'S assists declined alongside Lebron, and of these differences would be defined as "significant"... Otoh, Pippen's assists INCREASED 20% alongside Jordan.

Bosh, Love and Kyrie is significant?

Significant:

large enough to be noticed or have an effect

Thanks for the and keep reachin, yo.

[3ball]

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[COLOR="darkRed"]Here's Lebron's effective FG% on all "jumpshots" and "midrange" from stats.nba.com (midrange is defined as all shots inside 3-point line but outside paint):[/COLOR]


[COLOR="White"].................[/COLOR]eFG% All Jumpshots[COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR] Midrange

Lebron 2004: 35.6%, 324/998............ 33.2%, 183/551
Lebron 2005: 39.9%, 400/1136.......... 36.0%, 217/602
Lebron 2006: 41.7%, 423/1166.......... 38.4%, 242/630
Lebron 2007: 39.5%, 372/1066.......... 35.1%, 204/581
Lebron 2008: 39.4%, 338/1001.......... 36.4%, 185/508
Lebron 2009: 42.2%, 366/1024.......... 36.8%, 193/525
Lebron 2010: 43.4%, 356/970............ 38.8%, 188/444
Lebron 2011: 45.4%, 393/968............ 44.6%, 217/487
Lebron 2012: 43.7%, 290/726............ 42.3%, 188/444
Lebron 2013: 49.0%, 333/784............ 43.2%, 174/403
Lebron 2014: 47.0%, 288/736............ 38.5%, 126/327
Lebron 2015: 43.1%, 280/788............ 37.0%, 127/343
Lebron 2016: 39.0%, 181/543............ 37.1%, 96/259

Jordan 1997: 51.2%, 727/1528........... 48.9%, 588/1202

Currry 2015: 56.0%, 424/1029........... 41.1%, 117/285
Currry 2016: 62.9%, 389/847............. 45.3%, 67/148

As you can see, Lebron's jumpshooting has been near the bottom of the league for nearly his ENTIRE CAREER - otoh, Kobe's jumpshooting was never considered among the league's worst.
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[3ball]

Thanks for the keep reaching

Lebron's teams are a lot like the Team USA squads he played for in 2004 and 2006 that lost 5 times to international teams with FAR less talent - the USA played such a vastly inferior brand of basketball at the time, that it more than offset their massive talent advantage..

This is the same as Lebron's NBA teams - his ball-dominant presence reduces the assist rate of his teammates and teams, while also preventing equal-opportunity and the best brand of basketball.. Since Lebron prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, his teams are upset by equal or less-talented opponents that play a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014), just like many international teams upset the US in the mid-2000's Olympics.
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[sdot_thadon]

Significant

[3ball]

Lebron's teams are a lot like the Team USA squads he played for in 2004 and 2006 that lost 5 times to international teams with FAR less talent - the USA played such a vastly inferior brand of basketball at the time, that it more than offset their massive talent advantage..

This is the same as Lebron's NBA teams - his ball-dominant presence reduces the assist rate of his teammates and teams, while also preventing equal-opportunity and the best brand of basketball.. Since Lebron prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, his teams are upset by equal or less-talented opponents that play a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014), just like many international teams upset the US in the mid-2000's Olympics.

[3ball]

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[COLOR="Navy"]When Lebron's reduces the assist rate of his teammates and team, the team plays a worse brand of basketball and loses to a far less talented team:[/COLOR]

[Hey Yo]

This is what happens when you quit the NBA to try to become the next Bo Jackson

[knicksman]

Lebron's teams are a lot like the Team USA squads he played for in 2004 and 2006 that lost 5 times to international teams with FAR less talent - the USA played such a vastly inferior brand of basketball at the time, that it more than offset their massive talent advantage..

This is the same as Lebron's NBA teams - his ball-dominant presence reduces the assist rate of his teammates and teams, while also preventing equal-opportunity and the best brand of basketball.. Since Lebron prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, his teams are upset by equal or less-talented opponents that play a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014), just like many international teams upset the US in the mid-2000's Olympics.
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Burned.

This is the reason why bran has to collude. Coz he cant win with equal supporting casts

[sdot_thadon]

So, since we're on a similar subject....why not tell everyone what effect Mj presence or absence has on his teammates' ppg and usage rates? I'm sure you did all your homework 1st since you're such a great scientist.

[pauk]

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[COLOR="Blue"]Since Lebron significantly lowers the APG and assist % of his teammates:[/COLOR]


[COLOR="Green"]Wade apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): 6.6, 34.8% [/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Wade apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron (11'-14'): 4.7, 25.5% [/COLOR]


[COLOR="Green"]Bosh apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): 2.2, 10.5%[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Bosh apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron (11'-14'): 1.6, [COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]8.0% [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Green"]Irving apg and assist % before Lebron (12'-14'): 5.8, 33.2[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Irving apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron (2015):[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 5.2, 25.0%[/COLOR]


[COLOR="Green"]Kevin Love apg and assist % in MIN: 2.5, 13.0%[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Kevin Love apg and assist % in CLE:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 2.2, 10.7%[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Green"]Mo Williams apg and assist % before Lebron: 6.3, 30.0%[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Mo Williams apg and assist % with[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Lebron: 4.1, 20.1%[/COLOR]



[COLOR="Blue"]Naturally, Lebron's all of TEAMS have low assist rates relative to the competition:[/COLOR]


POSSESSIONS PER ASSIST (HIGHER NUMBER MEANS LESS PASSING)


2015 Cavs: 92.3/22.1 = [COLOR="red"]4.18[/COLOR]
2014 Heat: 91.2/22.5 = [COLOR="Red"]4.05[/COLOR]
2013 Heat: 90.7/23.0 = [COLOR="Red"]3.94[/COLOR]
2012 Heat: 91.2/20.0 = [COLOR="Red"]4.56[/COLOR]
2011 Heat: 90.9/20.0 = [COLOR="red"]4.55[/COLOR]
2010 Cavs: 91.4/22.4 = [COLOR="Red"]4.08[/COLOR]
2009 Cavs: 88.7/20.3 = [COLOR="Red"]4.37[/COLOR]
2008 Cavs: 90.2/20.0 = [COLOR="Red"]4.51[/COLOR]
2007 Cavs: 90.8/20.8 = [COLOR="Red"]4.37[/COLOR]
2006 Cavs: 89.8/19.0 = [COLOR="Red"]4.72[/COLOR]


1998 Bulls: 89.0/23.8 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.74[/COLOR]
1997 Bulls: 90.0/26.1 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.45[/COLOR]
1996 Bulls: 91.1/24.8 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.67[/COLOR]
1993 Bulls: 92.5/26.0 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.56[/COLOR]
1992 Bulls: 94.4/27.8 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.40[/COLOR]
1991 Bulls: 95.6/27.0 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.54[/COLOR]
1990 Bulls: 96.7/26.5 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.65[/COLOR]
1989 Bulls: 97.0/27.0 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.59[/COLOR]
1988 Bulls: 95.5/26.2 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.65[/COLOR]
1987 Bulls: 95.8/26.1 = [COLOR="Blue"]3.67[/COLOR]
1985 Bulls: 99.4/24.3 = [COLOR="Blue"]4.09[/COLOR]


2015 GSW:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 98.3/27.4 = [COLOR="Magenta"]3.59[/COLOR]
2014 Spurs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 95.0/25.2 = [COLOR="Magenta"]3.77[/COLOR]
2011 Mavs:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 91.3/23.8 = [COLOR="Magenta"]3.84[/COLOR]
2007 Spurs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 89.8/22.1 = [COLOR="Magenta"]4.06[/COLOR]

1987 Lakers: 101.6/29.6 = [COLOR="darkgreen"]3.43[/COLOR]
1986 Celtics: 102.1/29.1 = [COLOR="darkgreen"]3.47[/COLOR]

Source: basketball-reference.com


Lebron's presence significantly lowered the APG and assist percentage of Dwayne Wade, Kyrie Irving, Mo Williams, Kevin Love and Chris Bosh - these guys went from playmakers that generated action and got assists, to play-finishers that didn't make plays or get assists - this is a statistical fact.. Their lower assist rates explains why Lebron's TEAMS have always had very low assist frequency (shown above).

The statistical reality is that Lebron's presence as an additional, low-assisted ball-dominator (in addition to the PG) creates an inequitable distribution of playmaking that prevents the kind of equal-opportunity offenses that all the great teams use (90's Bulls, Spurs, Kerr's Warriors)... Since Lebron's ball-dominance prevents his teams from playing the best brand of basketball, equal or less-talented opponents are able to pull upsets by playing a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014)..

Otoh, MJ's off-ball game allowed his teams to play an equal-opportunity offense and the best brand of basketball, which meant that equal or less-talented opponents could never pull upsets by playing a better brand of basketball - MJ's teams were never upset by equal or lesser talented teams.. Btw, it takes more ability to achieve great stats within an equal-opportunity, winning framework, than the grade school-level, clearout/playground style that ball-dominators like Lebron need to get their numbers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bijbF3gkNk

[Optimus Prime]

Who cares about teammates? The only thing that matters:

[sd3035]

Perhaps the NBA's plan to manufacture a fraudulent superstar is starting to backfire

I've never seen a supposed all time great so ridiculed and disrespected in their prime

[3ball]

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[COLOR="Red"]HERE'S WHY MJ WINS 2014 FINALS[/COLOR]


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Dallas and OKC hold Kawhi to 12 ppg on ~45%

[COLOR="navy"]Result: competitive series[/COLOR]

Portland and Heat let Kawhi score 18 ppg on ~57%

[COLOR="Navy"]Result: Massacre [/COLOR]

If Lebron could've held role player Kawhi to 12 ppg on sub-40% like DAL and OKC did, instead of letting him be > Duncan, the series would've been competitive, just like DAL and OKC... In addition to the better defense, if Lebron adds the offensive aggression[COLOR="Navy"]AS WELL[/COLOR] by doubling his shot attempts like he did in 2015 Finals (which won 2 games with worse supporting cast against better team), the Heat WIN.

MJ would've done both of these things - he never let Byron Russell be better than Karl Malone.. If he had, the Bulls would've been blown away as well.. And he would've been far more aggressive offensively - the combination of Jordan's superior play on BOTH sides of the ball would've led the Heat to victory.. Oh, and Jordan would never get carried off the floor in Game 1 - it's kind of hard to hold teammates accountable on both sides of the ball after that.

But most importantly, the entire Heat TEAM would've been playing a different and superior brand of basketball all year long, because MJ was an off-ball player like Curry, not a ball-dominator that diminishes teammates like Lebron... And the team would've had more heart to continue persevering past the midpoint in Game 3, when the Heat simply GAVE UP.