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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaqTwizzle

    I mean... yeah.
    Like... is Carmelo a better scorer then Kareem because his shot spread is far more diverse and he uses more moves?

    You just exposed yourself as a dumbass - you think Shaq is a better scorer than MJ???

    You're far dumber than I ever imagined..

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    You're far dumber than I ever imagined..
    Where did I say Shaq was a better scorer then MJ in that post?
    Dummy...

    MJ was a slightly better scorer overall but that is because not only was he very efficient from the field "for a guard" but because he was also an elite FT shooter.

    Shaq was still the better scorer from the field but from the line he was considerably inferior to MJ which is why overall MJ retains the edge.

    None of this is hard to understand and MJ still comes out on top you are just so arrogant and hard headed that you cant accept easily understandable commonly accepted facts.

    Take away FT's from the game and yes everyone would prefer Shaq over Jordan as their teams main scorer because he is a better scorer from the field.

    I am done... you can keep rambling if you want but I won't further discuss this.

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaqTwizzle

    Where did I say Shaq was a better scorer then MJ in that post?
    You're analogy of Carmelo and Kareem implied it, but you're too dumb to even see that.

    Go to bed kid.. You were destroyed.

    MJ's a better scorer than Shaq, Kareem, Lebron, Kobe, and virtually every other player in the history of the game... That's why he was doubled more than any player ever, especially in the 80's when he was a 1-man team and had no 3-point shooters (unlike Shaq who always had all-nba guards and a bevy of 3-point shooters).

    I've proven MJ was doubled the most with multiple videos and more on deck, while we've been arguing this for a week and not a SINGLE video from anyone about Shaq - just their 15-year old memory of every single possession (because that's how often MJ was doubled).
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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    I think Charles should also be mentioned more regarding just MJ and Shaq. The most doubled playes ive seen where MJ, Barkley, Hakeem and Shaq. Now the player ive seen create more ilegal defenses and had more defensive rotations and making others foul out was probably Chuck.
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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

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    SHAQ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVxZs7dwCO8
    MJ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSftZvpHJg


    [COLOR="Navy"]The Shaq video shows him being doubled 33 of 62 times he caught the ball on the post (53%) compared to 52 of 103 in the MJ video (50%).[/COLOR]

    ^^^ This is for all those who think Shaq was doubled WAAAY more than MJ - you're wrong.. They were doubled about the same on the post - this means MJ was doubled more overall, since he was doubled all over the court.

    MJ's danger from anywhere on the court resulted in teams often doubling him 10+ possessions in a row, as various videos in the OP showed.. This type of every-possession double teams for 10 consecutive possessions never happened for Shaq, not even in the 2000 Finals.

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    SHAQ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVxZs7dwCO8
    MJ'S POST MOVES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSftZvpHJg


    [COLOR="Navy"]The Shaq video shows him being doubled 33 of 62 times he caught the ball on the post (53%) compared to 52 of 103 in the MJ video (50%).[/COLOR]

    ^^^ This is for all those who think Shaq was doubled WAAAY more than MJ - you're wrong.. They were doubled about the same on the post - this means MJ was doubled more overall, since he was doubled all over the court.

    MJ's danger from anywhere on the court resulted in teams often doubling him 10+ possessions in a row, as various videos in the OP showed.. This type of every-possession double teams for 10 consecutive possessions never happened for Shaq, not even in the 2000 Finals.
    You realize nobody gives a flying **** about this bullshit, but you right? Write it in your journal and shut the hell up.
    Last edited by Smoke117; 10-16-2015 at 06:08 PM.

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117
    You realize nobody gives a flying **** about this bullshit, but you right? Write in in your journal and shut the hell up.

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117
    You realize nobody gives a flying **** about this bullshit, but you right? Write in in your journal and shut the hell up.
    The dude deleted his post and reposted the same shit to bump up the thread as he always does. I'm pretty sure that he sent a PM to ShaqTwizzle as well. Talk about pathetic.

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117
    You realize nobody gives a flying **** about this bullshit, but you right? Write it in your journal and shut the hell up.
    Then you dont know shit about this game coz thats what separates a 6/6 to 2/6

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Did mods at the "besides Wilt" qualifier in the thread title? I could've sworn it wasn't there before.

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFWyLRNsGk

    The youtube channel "[COLOR="Red"]Nobody Touches Jordan[/COLOR]" did a video of Payton guarding MJ in Game 4 of 1996 Finals (link above) - MJ was doubled exactly 10 of the 20 times he caught the ball with Payton guarding - all 10 double-teams are shown here:























    By comparison, Lebron was doubled-teamed a TOTAL of 18 times in the entire Finals... Think about that for a second.. Still impressed with his 36 ppg on 39%?

    "Curry’s ability to guard one-on-one allowed the Warriors’ wing defenders to double-team LeBron James effectively. [COLOR="Blue"]When James was double-teamed, the Cavaliers scored 5 points on 2-of-18 shooting[/COLOR] (11 percent)".

    http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...defensive-team

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    I say Shaq also.

    And Shaq probably has the record for most triple teams too.

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Rumor has it jordan once crossed over a spider and broke all his ankles

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    Default Re: MJ is the most double-teamed player of all time, besides Wilt

    Shaq wasn't doubled more than MJ.
    Last edited by 3ball; 10-30-2015 at 01:57 AM.

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