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    Default Re: Why aren't the Majority Muslims banding together a war against Islamic Extremism?

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    for starters: http://m.voanews.com/a/saudi-arabia-...m/3103368.html

    if THOSE f*ckers are leading the way, you know shit is bad.

    I can post many links of leaders, groups, etc etc denouncing terrorism and demanding for change.

    People forget that terrorists groups kill more Muslims than anything else, Muslims are tired of being scared to speak out. Change will come.
    That's only because Western Nations used to prevent terrorists from entering their borders. Not the case since the rapefugee insurgence.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Majority Muslims banding together a war against Islamic Extremism?

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    That's only because Western Nations used to prevent terrorists from entering their borders. Not the case since the rapefugee insurgence.
    Uh, not true.

    Please resist from mentioning western influences because it opens up shit people dont wanna hear or admit.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Majority Muslims banding together a war against Islamic Extremism?

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    Uh, not true.

    Please resist from mentioning western influences because it opens up shit people dont wanna hear or admit.
    What "shit" don't people want to "hear or admit"?

    It's definitely true. Do you think if ISIS was located in the middle of Paris they would go around targeting the Muslims ahead of the infidels?

    Muslim terrorists kill other Muslims simply because other Muslims are the only people around them.

    No matter how you try to spin it, the religion is clearly inspiring these terrorists as well as the Muslim rape gangs.


    Why do the Muslim rape gangs only target white European girls?


    Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1,400 children exploited, report finds

    At least 1,400 children were subjected to appalling sexual exploitation in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, a report has found.

    Children as young as 11 were raped by multiple perpetrators, abducted, trafficked to other cities in England, beaten and intimidated, it said.

    The report, commissioned by Rotherham Borough Council, revealed there had been three previous inquiries.

    Council leader Roger Stone said he would step down with immediate effect.

    Mr Stone, who has been the leader since 2003, said: "I believe it is only right that as leader I take responsibility for the historic failings described so clearly."


    The inquiry team noted fears among council staff of being labelled "racist" if they focused on victims' descriptions of the majority of abusers as "Asian" men.

    In this case, "Asian" is the Britishism for Indian or Pakistani.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-s...shire-28939089



    Why do you think the change will come? Radicalism is growing. Any muslim leader who speaks out against it is imprisoned or assassinated, and the majority of people support it. Where is the hope?
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    Default Re: Why aren't the Majority Muslims banding together a war against Islamic Extremism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Young
    What "shit" don't people want to "hear or admit"?

    It's definitely true. Do you think if ISIS was located in the middle of Paris they would go around targeting the Muslims ahead of the infidels?

    Muslim terrorists kill other Muslims simply because other Muslims are the only people around them.

    No matter how you try to spin it, the religion is clearly inspiring these terrorists as well as the Muslim rape gangs.


    Why do the Muslim rape gangs only target white European girls?



    In this case, "Asian" is the Britishism for Indian or Pakistani.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-s...shire-28939089



    Why do you think the change will come? Radicalism is growing. Any muslim leader who speaks out against it is imprisoned or assassinated, and the majority of people support it. Where is the hope?
    What 'shit' don't people wanna hear?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Ns...DAaEOLFZ4WqTHw

    Radical Islam was a result of Western manipulation and intervention. And it continues to thrive because of Western influence. We continue to exploit Radical Islam to our advantage. We continue to support radical Islam via proxies, and continue to support supporters of radical fundamentalists.

    Again, you cherry pick what you want and only believe what you want regardless of what I or others may present which is why these aren't even discussions but mere mudslinging and in some cases, an excuse to release hatred filled rants.

    There are many high politicians, religious figures etc.etc that speak out against radical Islam and extreme fundamentalism. You speak as if you spoke for all Muslims, as if you know what they're thinking.

    I know more Muslims and are around more Muslims than 99% of you here.

    Im in touch with old and new generations, and none support radical fundamentalism. They all hate the corruption and how it demonizes their religion. Muslims are the ones that suffer more because of radicals, not Christians, Jews, Catholics, Buddhists, etc.etc. Not only do radicals kill more Muslims than another other religious sect, they oppress them, and their actions impact them more in the long run. There is a deep hatred for them, btw.. why do you think people leave their countries? why do you think there's a wave of refugees? Not because they love them so much, support them or agree with their ideology.

    Radical fundamentalism will be minimized within a few years. Unless the US and its allies decide they want to add more fuel to the flames.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Majority Muslims banding together a war against Islamic Extremism?

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923

    Radical Islam was a result of Western manipulation and intervention. And it continues to thrive because of Western influence. We continue to exploit Radical Islam to our advantage. We continue to support radical Islam via proxies, and continue to support supporters of radical fundamentalists.
    No it wasn't. The rise of radical Islam is directly attributed to Haj Amin Al-Husseini, the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and a man still considered a great hero across much of the Arab world.


    Learn history.


    I know more Muslims and are around more Muslims than 99% of you here.
    I lived in a Muslim country. You live in New York City. You have no idea what it's like in a Muslim country, or how a majority of Muslims from these countries act and behave. Every Muslim you know is either an American dude raised in America or an educated elite from their country who was able to make it through the American visa process.


    why do you think there's a wave of refugees?
    You mean the rapefugees and economic opportunists trying to get in to Europe so they can skive off the welfare system?

    Majority of these rapefugees aren't even Syrian dude. And where are all the women and children refugees?
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    Default Re: Why aren't the Majority Muslims banding together a war against Islamic Extremism?

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923
    for starters: http://m.voanews.com/a/saudi-arabia-...m/3103368.html

    if THOSE f*ckers are leading the way, you know shit is bad.

    I can post many links of leaders, groups, etc etc denouncing terrorism and demanding for change.

    People forget that terrorists groups kill more Muslims than anything else, Muslims are tired of being scared to speak out. Change will come.
    Leading the way to what? More sectarian war? Again using Sunni extremists for their own political gain?

    The US and Saudi Arabia are perfect bed-buddies in that respect. America cannot pursue a reasonable policy in the Middle East until it stops its constant appeasement of the Saudis and Turks, who are both big backers of Sunni Islamic terrorism. But the Saudis are important to many countries in the West because they sell us oil and buy our weapons - once again, we allow economic considerations to trump all (and to be fair to the politicians: they are encouraged in this by their grasping and indebted and profligate citizens, who only ever demand more).

    Europe has had its religious wars. I don't see why we are getting so heavily involved in this Islamic one, either through indirectly importing it through policies of mass immigration, or getting involved militarily in those countries. Let them have their spat and close the borders to the affected regions is really the only sensible and prudent response - that will force the leaders in Iran and Saudi Arabia to actually deal with the problem themselves, and if not, they may well be toppled. Politicians are elected to look after the interests of their own people, not those in far-off lands, which as you seem to be admitting, is at the root of the problem anyway. If you absolve those local countries from the responsibility of dealing with their problems, then they will never learn how to, and nothing will improve. Democracies are just terrible at imperialism - they lack the resolve, and consequently do everything half-arsed (which is usually worse than doing nothing at all).

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Majority Muslims banding together a war against Islamic Extremism?

    Quote Originally Posted by andgar923

    Radical fundamentalism will be minimized within a few years. Unless the US and its allies decide they want to add more fuel to the flames.
    No way. The longer it goes on, the higher the stakes grow, the more extreme people become, and the more they dig in their heels. This is not going away in the near-future; the only thing i'm hoping is that we don't get involved unless it is through cooperation with Putin and Assad, because if we do, we could end up causing a localised and sectarian civil war to spiral into a futile and pointless war between the big powers.

    Nothing could be worse than that, and i think it is a genuine possibility, though one to be avoided at all costs.

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