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Verticle?
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Wilt Davis
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
Originally Posted by bobopenguin
2) duncan is a monster during his peak... from age 21-30... he avged like what? 20/10/2blk? like fking every year? and this is overrated?
That's good and all, but it's not mind-blowing. Duncan is more like Bill Russell in his impact. It goes beyond the numbers, because you know, there have been guys like Wilt and Kareem who would make those numbers look paltry.
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GOAT
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Re: Is Duncan overrated?
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
He's a player gets underrated. Severely underrated by Kobe stans. And underrated by young kids and average fans who thinks he's boring and respond more to things like And1. Etc. The future doesn't look too bright for him.
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NBA Legend
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
Originally Posted by jstern
He's a player gets underrated. Severely underrated by Kobe stans. And underrated by young kids and average fans who thinks he's boring and respond more to things like And1. Etc. The future doesn't look too bright for him.
This. Kobe will always be rated higher to casual fans. People who know basketball will always see Duncan as a top 10 greatest of this generation player.
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High School Starter
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
He's not overrated. He wanted to swim in the olympics, then he started playing basketball in 8th or 9th grade "as something to do". He's in the conversation for GOAT PF.
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Great college starter
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
He's prime is underrated (98-03) . Probably best prime after Kareem,Jordan,Bill,Wilt . Maybe Hakeem better than him beside of those 4 in prime to prime .
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Free the banned users.
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
Originally Posted by Mr. Jabbar
its hard to tell with players in the pop system really. safest bet is to wait for what jameer has to say and go with the opposite
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Lord Olajuwon
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
His prime is worse than:
Jordan
Kareem
Shaq
Hakeem
Wilt
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#Polish Hammer
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
Originally Posted by dhsilv
Well what is the system? Please compare 2003 with 2014 and how the offense or defense is the same...?
Are you serious? In Timmy's prime he was the freakin' system. If you rewatch some older spurs games you will immediately see a difference compared to today.
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Re: Is Duncan overrated?
Originally Posted by bobopenguin
1) duncan is a PF. he doesnt have to take on shaq.
2) duncan is a monster during his peak... from age 21-30... he avged like what? 20/10/2blk? like fking every year? and this is overrated?
It's overrated when one puts him in the top 6-10 all-time. Guys like Garnett, Elton Brand, and CWebb put up comparable numbers, but you never hear anyone putting them in the top 10 all-time. The only thing that really separates Duncan from those guys are rings...which really says more about the team's front office than you as an individual player. Put Duncan in Denver for the last 15 yrs with no rings and it's unlikely he'd be in anyone's top 6-10 all-time list.
Last edited by midatlantic09; 01-21-2016 at 08:12 AM.
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#Polish Hammer
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
Originally Posted by midatlantic09
It's overrated when one puts him in the top 6-10 all-time. Guys like Garnett, Elton Brand, and CWebb put up comparable numbers, but you never hear anyone putting them in the top 10 all-time. The only thing that really separates Duncan from those guys are rings.
They maybe put up comparable numbers but not as long and as consistent as duncan. And 5 rings should put you in this all-time range when you have been pivotal for at least 4 of them.
.which really says more about the team's front office than you as an individual player. Put Duncan in Denver for the last 15 yrs with no rings and it's unlikely he'd be in anyone's top 6-10 all-time list.
If you apply this scenario to all all-time greats how many are still in the top 10 afterwards? MJ, Shaq and Wilt maybe? It shouldn't count against a player that he played for a great franchise.
Last edited by uber; 01-21-2016 at 08:20 AM.
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Re: Is Duncan overrated?
His prime was pretty underrated. Pop's offensive system before 2004 was give the ball to duncan in the post and let him work. It wasnt until the emergence of Parker and Ginobili that Duncan stopped dominating the ball. But he kept dominating on defense.
But his peak gets underrated and overrated. He had one the best playoff performances of all time in 2003. Taking out Shaq, Kobe, Dirk, Nash, Marion, Marbury, being the only Allstar on the Spurs and averaging 25/15.5/5/3. And I've seen people say his peak wasn't top 10, and others that his peak was top 5. I think his peak was somewhere in the 7-10 range.
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Great college starter
Re: Is Duncan overrated?
Originally Posted by midatlantic09
It's overrated when one puts him in the top 6-10 all-time. Guys like Garnett, Elton Brand, and CWebb put up comparable numbers, but you never hear anyone putting them in the top 10 all-time. The only thing that really separates Duncan from those guys are rings.
Show me like that ;
24 pts , 17 reb , 5 ast , 1 stl , 5 blk , 109 ortg(03 Nets had 98 Drtg) , 83 Drtg ( Nets had 104 ortg , 104 to 83 ; clearly goat level defence like Russell) and %54.5 TS .
Shaq hadn't like that level impact on 2002 finals ;
36 pts , 12 reb , 4 ast , 0.5 stl , 3 blk , 126 ortg(Nets had 99 defrat) , 102 drtg ( 104 ) and %63.5 TS .
Duncan had 19 points margin than Shaq on defence in 100 poss . 19 man , 19 .
Shaq had some good margin than Duncan on offence . But that was maximum 14-15 margin , not 20 .
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