Curry got the 2nd highest per to play with him, LeBron joined the 2nd AND 4th highest

[warriorfan]

Lol no. This has been discussed too much to have this argument again. Joining a team that just elminated you and went to two straight finals is different than building a new team after the Heat just got elminated from the first round. The fact that you think this is even remotely comparable shows that you're not worth conversing with on the subject.

Joining a team you eliminated is not a big deal when you are the top player in the league and bringing a top 4 player with you as well...and joining the 2nd best in the league...

That would be like if Kevin Durant AND Russell Westbrook joined a playoff team that had the Best Player in the League....like the Warriors

[SouBeachTalents]

Joining a team you eliminated is not a big deal when you are the top player in the league and bringing a top 4 player with you as well...and joining the 2nd best in the league...

That would be like if Kevin Durant AND Russell Westbrook joined a playoff team that had the Best Player in the League....like the Warriors

What's your top 4 for the 2010 season?

[warriorfan]

What's your top 4 for the 2010 season?

1a. Wade
1b. LeBron
3. Durant
4. Bosh

[Dray n Klay]

1a. Wade
1b. LeBron
3. Durant
4. Bosh

So Bosh >> Kobe?

[warriorfan]

So Bosh >> Kobe?

I don't know, Bosh was a force that year

They are interchangeable in value depending on what the team needs

I don't have a problem with someone arguing Kobe over Bosh in 2010, but it's very close

Like I said before Chris Bosh is getting criminally underrated around here, he was an elite player that was buried in a small market team that was awful. He was recognized as an emerging star but he did not get the respect that he earned through his play and production. He was quietly putting up 24/12 on 59% TS while not getting much media coverage at all. He was dominant.

[Dray n Klay]

warriorfan, was Kevin Love better than Steph in 2014?

[Bankaii]

1a. Wade
1b. LeBron
3. Durant
4. Bosh

Looks like your agendas are conflicting

[warriorfan]

warriorfan, was Kevin Love better than Steph in 2014?

Yes

Curry was good in 2014 but he was far from his peak, he had a huge leap in 2015

Kevin Love put up historic hall of fame numbers in 2014. 26/12.5/4.4/59% TS

Want to see a list of the only players who have put up those numbers?



Prime Kareem Abdul Jabbar was the only player ever to do it, and he did it in a weak era with inflated pace

It's a safe bet to say that Kevin Love was better than Steph Curry in 2014

[RRR3]

Hassan Whiteside had a higher PER than Bosh ever had last year. Superstar, right?




Other "legends" who have put up huge PER seasons:

Elton Brand 26.7 PER in 2005-06
John Drew (25.31 PER in 1975-76, higher than Bosh ever had)
Terrell Brandon (25.24 in 1995-96, better than Bosh ever did)
Brook Lopez (24.73 PER in 2012-13)
Carlos Boozer (24.1 PER in 2006-07)

[RRR3]

In 2004, "ColludeBe", already playing with Shaq who was coming off a 29.5 PER season, got Karl Malone and Gary Payton as well, who were coming off 21.7 PER and 21.1 PER seasons, respectively.



Kobe also had THREE teammates (D12 Gasol and Nash) coming off of 20+ PER seasons going into the 2013 season. Didn't go well for him.

[RRR3]

Enes Kanter had a 24.0 PER this past year, for ****'s sake. Durant left a team with two 24+ PER guys, (Westbrook was 27.6, and was coming off a 29.1 season) to a team with to a team with only one guy with a PER above 20. Damn, Durant must want to lose, leaving such a stacked cast in OKC and joining those scrubs in Golden State

[warriorfan]

Hassan Whiteside had a higher PER than Bosh ever had last year. Superstar, right?




Other "legends" who have put up huge PER seasons:

Elton Brand 26.7 PER in 2005-06
John Drew (25.31 PER in 1975-76, higher than Bosh ever had)
Terrell Brandon (25.24 in 1995-96, better than Bosh ever did)
Brook Lopez (24.73 PER in 2012-13)
Carlos Boozer (24.1 PER in 2006-07)

Few things here

First off PER cannot be compared cross years, it's not meant to be used like that. The way the numbers are normalized makes it so they can only be used to compare with others from the same season

Example, a PER of 20 in 2006 is not the same as a PER of 20 in 1976

Then there is minutes played


You obviously didn't read my post concerning minutes played and PER

No, because you do not understand how PER works

PER is not accurate when measuring players with far less minutes

If you look at both graphics, Boban has 3 times as less minutes (9 mpg) than all the other players

Boban's PER is not accurate to his actual value because of his minuscule minute load

All of the other readings are accurate however

[RRR3]

Terrell Brandon had a higher PER than Charles Barkley in 1995-96.

[RRR3]

Wilt Chamberlain Jerry West and Elgin Baylor were 1, 3, and 4 in PER in the 67-68 season. The next year, they teamed up. Most stacked ever, right, OP?

[RRR3]

For what it's worth Kyrie Irving has never been top 10 in PER, and the year before LeBron joined him he had a 20.1 PER. Boo-boo-boo-buh-buh-buh-but!