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Re: 2016 US Olympic Team vs The Rest of the Best of the US
Originally Posted by Bankaii
I'll give you better iOS/shooters, although the gap is small, if there even is one.
But better two way players?
Kyrie and Curry are both average defenders.
Klay>>Harden
Durant<<Kawhi
Melo<<Lebron
Cousins<AD
Non-team USA has too many weapons on both sides of the court. With Lebron playing point forward and Curry, Harden, and Kawhi spreading it'd be too much.
This isn't even accounting bench support which would include Lowry, Derozan, Barnes...
non-USA two-way players: LeBron, CP3, Kawhi, Davis.
USA two-way players: Durant, Klay, Dray, George, Butler
And as of now, Cousins > AD as a player. Jordan > Howard
Also, and most importantly, team USA has many players that don't need the ball in their hands to be effective. On non USA you have Harden, CP3, Westbrook, LeBron... bunch of guys that NEED the ball to be effective
That's why the "this guy > this guy at scoring" argument doesn't work. We know by now it's the chemistry that matters, and it looks to me USA would have much better chemistry than non-USA. Better spacing/shooting, better perimeter defense, better ISO play, better post-play = better team
Edit: Davis is injured, so he should be left off. So that's one less two-way player for nonUSA
Last edited by KiiiiNG; 07-24-2016 at 03:50 AM.
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College superstar
Re: 2016 US Olympic Team vs The Rest of the Best of the US
At the first glimpse I was gonna say the team with Lebron, I still think if it's one game Lebron/Kawhi/Westbrook would pull it out, but over a 7 game series the Olympic Team has too many great 2-way swingmen with size between Carmelo, George, Butler, Klay, Derozan. I think they could eventually wear down Lebron/Kawhi and could bother Westbrook.
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Re: 2016 US Olympic Team vs The Rest of the Best of the US
Originally Posted by KiiiiNG
non-USA two-way players: LeBron, CP3, Kawhi, Davis.
USA two-way players: Durant, Klay, Dray, George, Butler
Non-USA has the better defenders of that bunch.
And if Durant is getting grouped in as a two-way player then so does players like Westbrook, Wall, etc.
Originally Posted by KiiiiNG
And as of now, Cousins > AD as a player. Jordan > Howard
No, just no to both. Healthy AD was getting talks of becoming the 3rd best player in the league after Lebron/Curry after 2015 and was expected to be MVP. Boogie has NEVER been on that level.
And Jordan can't even create his own shot. I'd take a broken down Dwightnover him any day.
Originally Posted by KiiiiNG
Also, and most importantly, team USA has many players that don't need the ball in their hands to be effective. On non USA you have Harden, CP3, Westbrook, LeBron... bunch of guys that NEED the ball to be effective
That's why the "this guy > this guy at scoring" argument doesn't work. We know by now it's the chemistry that matters, and it looks to me USA would have much better chemistry than non-USA. Better spacing/shooting, better perimeter defense, better ISO play, better post-play = better team
This makes sense on paper, but it's been proven time and time again that that's not the case.
2013 Lebron/Wade/Bosh all needed the ball to be effective yet beat the 2013 Spurs whom had vastly superior ball movement and off ball players.
Same with 2016 Cavs beating the Warriors.
You simply aren't beating a team led by Lebron/Curry offensively with Lebron/Kawhi/AD defensively. It's not happening.
Originally Posted by KiiiiNG
Edit: Davis is injured, so he should be left off. So that's one less two-way player for nonUSA
From what I remember he's recovering from knee surgery. I wouldn't necessarily call him "injured" whatever. Dwight would be a fine replacement anyway.
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Coach
Re: 2016 US Olympic Team vs The Rest of the Best of the US
I like Kyrie and Butler but c'mon
Curry / CP3 / Lillard
Harden / Westbrook
Bron / Leonard
Aldridge / Griffin
Davis / Howard
Absolutely kills it.
Same gravity with shooting from the perimeter. Spacing. Superior IQ, passing, and most importantly defense. Similar size but more skill and versatility.
While also featuring probably 7 of the 8 best players from both teams.
Including the best player.
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Re: 2016 US Olympic Team vs The Rest of the Best of the US
The team thats currently being pumped with PEDs wins this easily. The others will have to wait for the next free cycle window
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