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Flagg > MJ
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Kobe
4. Curry
5.West
6. Wade
7. Havlicek
8. IT
9. Oscar
10. Nash
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Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
finals win% is taken into consideration. yes kblaze. where the hell have you been for the last 2 decades
its not the end all be all but it is one factor when comparing guys
magic is 5 for 9 and not 7 for 9 because he literally choked the 1984 finals away
plus he got swept by philly in 1983
how on earth can choking and getting swept be a good thing when you have
- Kareem Abdul Jabbar
- James Worthy
- Jamaal Wilkes
- Bob Mcadoo
- Michael Cooper
- Norm Nixon/Byron Scott
kobe with this f*cking squad doesn't get swept. he doesn't choke. and he plays f*cking defense
how about not making playoffs in his peak or losing in 1st round? are we gonna take that into consideration?
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Bran Fam Member
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
We taking the stupid ___/___ argument so far as to actually act like when two people have the same number of rings the one who made less finals had a better career? I didnt think this place could get any worse.......
Kobe played in a tougher Conference. Magic had no real competition to make the Finals in many of his runs in an imbalanced Western Conference and to be fair choked a few times with HCA, once in the first round to a 40-42 Rockets team. It's fair to say that Kobe had to beat better teams to make his 7 Finals and that he won two rings without another all-time great player on his side.
It's a fair argument, and the fact that Magic himself has said that Kobe's the GOAT Laker. Kenneth is an idiot, but it's a fair argument to make.
Ranking is biased anyway, no matter who does it. People have different reasons for ranking players. Some favor rings over stats, others purely look at the talent of the player and most rank players based on team/player fandom and nostalgia.
Originally Posted by zeerghit
how about not making playoffs in his peak or losing in 1st round? are we gonna take that into consideration?
Did he lose in the 1st round with HCA? Wasn't he injured in 2005 along with his 2nd best player? How is that peak?
Magic got swept in the 1st round with HCA against a 40-42 team. Kobe put up his team ahead 3 - 1 against one of the contending teams when they had no business doing so, he eliminates that team if his teammates don't give up two wide open threes in the last 20 seconds of the 4th at home in Game 6.
Last edited by ImKobe; 01-25-2019 at 09:35 AM.
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Flagg > MJ
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by ImKobe
1. Kobe
2. MJ
3. Magic
4. Wade
5. AI
6. Kyrie
7. Curry
8. T-Mac
9. Harden
10. Westbrook
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2Willd & 2Fresh est.86
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Manny98
1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Kobe
4. Curry
5.West
6. Wade
7. Havlicek
8. IT
9. Oscar
10. Nash
Good list actually but why nash instead of iverson?
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Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
#1 Jordan
#2 Kobe
#3 Magic
#4 Oscar
#5 West
#6 Zeke
#7 Wade
#8 Curry
#9 Stockton
#10 Iverson
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Bran Fam Member
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Manny98
I'm not putting Oscar and West into my top 10 because honestly they were wayyy before my time and yours, it's hard to rank them. It's why I don't even bother ranking Wilt & Russell in all-time top 10s, it's pretty impossible to measure their greatness vs. modern NBA basketball. They're on a level of their own.
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Flagg > MJ
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Real14
Good list actually but why nash instead of iverson?
I don't like inefficient ball hogging chuckers
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Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by zeerghit
how about not making playoffs in his peak or losing in 1st round? are we gonna take that into consideration?
its about doing what is expected of you. kobe taking the suns to 7 games with kwame and smush is more impressive than magic taking 5-6 hall of famers to the finals only to get swept ... then a year later choke like a b*tch
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2Willd & 2Fresh est.86
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Manny98
I don't like inefficient ball hogging chuckers
What?? If u think that's all he is then you haven't seen him play enough then smh.
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Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Manny98
I don't like inefficient ball hogging chuckers
then why'd you put havlicek on your list. his point per shot was 1.10 ... which is on kobe post achilles rupture/rookie lebron levels of inefficiency
iverson was much more efficient than havlicek
and he was barely ever a shooting guard btw
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2Willd & 2Fresh est.86
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
#1 Jordan
#2 Kobe
#3 Magic
#4 Oscar
#5 West
#6 Zeke
#7 Wade
#8 Curry
#9 Stockton
#10 Iverson
What's with this Stockton shit? He was great but not that great
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Flagg > MJ
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
then why'd you put havlicek on your list. his point per shot was 1.10 ... which is on kobe post achilles rupture/rookie lebron levels of inefficiency
iverson was much more efficient than havlicek
and he was barely ever a shooting guard btw
That's because there was no 3 point line + Havlicek actually played a team brand of basketball hence 8/8 unlike Iverson
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2Willd & 2Fresh est.86
Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Manny98
That's because there was no 3 point line + Havlicek actually played a team brand of basketball hence 8/8 unlike Iverson
Team ball? What Iverson did in 01 puts him over havlicek automatically. Look at that 01 Sixers team. Very talentless.
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Re: ( Guards ONLY) Top 10 All-Time
Originally Posted by Real14
What's with this Stockton shit? He was great but not that great
stockton basically made karl malone
half of his career is based off of a stocktons creation/getting him open for a mid range jumper
if it wasn't for MJ/refs stockton would have 2 rings
he's one of the best 2way players ever.
stockton was the perfect point guard.. put him on the lakers instead of magic and they win 7 titles out of 9
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