Why couldnt Kobe win with Shaq in 03 and 04?

[Rico2016]

Why couldn't LeBron win with Wade & Bosh in '11?

Wade-ball plagued 2011 Finals appearance

[NBASTATMAN]

my bad. looked up the wrong year on bbr.com

Kevin garnett
paul pierce
ray allen
rajon rondo
rasheed wallace
tony allen
glen davis
nate robinson
michael finley
kendrick perkins



still incredibly stacked

Didnt the 38 WIN HAWKS Take them to 7 GAMES and almost beat them ?

[kennethgriffen]

Didnt the 38 WIN HAWKS Take them to 7 GAMES and almost beat them ?

that was 2008 when they beat the cavs and lakers so no real point in degrading them


they were a great team both years and gave a few games away to a hawks team that underachieved

[Akrazotile]

Wade-ball plagued 2011 Finals appearance

This. It was tantamount to sabotage given the circumstances.

Im not prepared to say definitively it should keep Wade out of HoF consideration, but it’s something voters will have to think very seriously about. He put himself before the team on the biggest stage possible, and it was a tremendous embarassment to the league.

There should be some kind of consequence.

[Rico2016]

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]This. It was tantamount to sabotage given the circumstances.

Im not prepared to say definitively it should keep Wade out of HoF consideration, but it

[baudkarma]

2003-4 Shaq wasn't nearly as dominant as 2000-2002 Shaq. He coasted through the early part of his career relying on his physical gifts. In 1999 the Spurs surprised everyone by winning the title, and some people started calling Duncan the best big in the game. That pissed Shaq off, he finally worked hard during the off-season, started 2000 motivated and in good shape, and destroyed the league. Same thing in 2001 and 2002. By 2003 he figured he had made his point, he had 3 rings, and he was back to being fat and happy Shaq. That's why Kobe ran him out of town. He knew that Shaq would never again be motivated to be as dominant as he was during the Lakers title run.

[ImKobe]

Didnt the 38 WIN HAWKS Take them to 7 GAMES and almost beat them ?

And the Cavs SHOULD HAVE beat them, but Lebron was dogshit for half the series.

Imagine holding the Celtics to 76 pts at home with Allen & Pierce going 2/18 for 4 pts and still losing by 4 points with Bran putting up 2/18 and 10 turnovers