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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
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Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
If you’re using a stat like PER then using similar stats he has a few of them as good or better
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I rule the local playground
Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
86-98 Jordan
LeBron has never been a great shooter whether it be from 3 or mid-range,he got a little better at it over the years but for the most part he's streaky.His defense is overrated.He cannot guard all 5 positions,he's never been a great man to man defender and ever since he left Miami his defense rapidly dropped and got worse each season to the point where one of his teammates had to shove him in front of an opposing player,the guy picks and chooses when to play D.
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
Originally Posted by light
Jordan didn't decide that. Jackson only wanted Jordan doing what he was best at. Jackson preferred other players to handle the other responsibilities because they were better at it.
1991 Bulls Roles:
Offense Initiator: John Paxson
Offense Stabilizer: John Paxson
Top Playmaker: Scottie Pippen
Defensive Quarterback: Scottie Pippen
Go-To Scorer: Michael Jordan
Clutch Scorer: Michael Jordan
LeBron Team Roles:
Offense Initiator: LeBron James
Offense Stabilizer: LeBron James
Top Playmaker: LeBron James
Defensive Quarterback: LeBron James
Go-To Scorer: LeBron James
Clutch Scorer: LeBron James
In terms of responsibility, LeBron does more in 5 minutes than Jordan did in an entire game.
Jordan was better at the things he did than LeBron is at the things he does--but LeBron simply is asked to do a lot more for his teams than Jordan was.
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I rule the local playground
Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
LeBron refuses to let his teammates play their actual game,he always wants to do it all.Jack of all trades MASTER OF NONE.
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Banned
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
All of them because MJ always commanded double-teams, so he's better than 09' Bron... And he never held tge ball for 11 minutes a game like 18' Lebron so his team never got massively out-assisted or beat by record amount
Stan said they "let him (Bron) dribble and get stats"... Kerr also didn't double lebron
No wonder his teammates didn't play that well because teams stay at home - they play an adjustment-less style against Lebron's long-dribbling and weak jumpshooting - it would be dumb to get the ball out his hands
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Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
Originally Posted by Rico2016
Well. No.
Better peak. Better consistency. More times. Equal years. What are you on about? GOAT MAN lives on.
3ball?
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Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
Originally Posted by Rico2016
Well. No.
Better peak. Better consistency. More times. Equal years. What are you on about? GOAT MAN lives on.
Stats LIKE PER
Jordan has the all time highest GameScore for a playoff run, and litters the Top 10. You guys almost worship GameScore from what I’ve seen, and it’s just a simplified version of PER
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?
Originally Posted by Rico2016
Well. No.
Better peak. Better consistency. More times. Equal years. What are you on about? GOAT MAN lives on.
^^^ Record losing vs record winning
Lebron's top PER's are record losses (14', 18') and record upsets (09')
So they were stat-padding drills and can't be compared to the goat winning that MJ's top PER's had in 91' and 93', and also 90' (basically beating Pistons with nothing except migraine pip)
And MJ is #1 all-time in PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP seasons and PPG (goat stats)... And he has the most rings as the best player in modern era/3-pointer basketball (goat winning)
Last edited by 3ball; 05-30-2020 at 12:53 PM.
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