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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    91, that's it

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    If you’re using a stat like PER then using similar stats he has a few of them as good or better

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    86-98 Jordan

    LeBron has never been a great shooter whether it be from 3 or mid-range,he got a little better at it over the years but for the most part he's streaky.His defense is overrated.He cannot guard all 5 positions,he's never been a great man to man defender and ever since he left Miami his defense rapidly dropped and got worse each season to the point where one of his teammates had to shove him in front of an opposing player,the guy picks and chooses when to play D.

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by light View Post
    Jordan didn't decide that. Jackson only wanted Jordan doing what he was best at. Jackson preferred other players to handle the other responsibilities because they were better at it.

    1991 Bulls Roles:

    Offense Initiator: John Paxson
    Offense Stabilizer: John Paxson
    Top Playmaker: Scottie Pippen
    Defensive Quarterback: Scottie Pippen
    Go-To Scorer: Michael Jordan
    Clutch Scorer: Michael Jordan

    LeBron Team Roles:

    Offense Initiator: LeBron James
    Offense Stabilizer: LeBron James
    Top Playmaker: LeBron James
    Defensive Quarterback: LeBron James
    Go-To Scorer: LeBron James
    Clutch Scorer: LeBron James

    In terms of responsibility, LeBron does more in 5 minutes than Jordan did in an entire game.
    Jordan was better at the things he did than LeBron is at the things he does--but LeBron simply is asked to do a lot more for his teams than Jordan was.

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    LeBron refuses to let his teammates play their actual game,he always wants to do it all.Jack of all trades MASTER OF NONE.

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by LostCause View Post
    If you’re using a stat like PER then using similar stats he has a few of them as good or better
    Well. No.



    Better peak. Better consistency. More times. Equal years. What are you on about? GOAT MAN lives on.


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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    All of them because MJ always commanded double-teams, so he's better than 09' Bron... And he never held tge ball for 11 minutes a game like 18' Lebron so his team never got massively out-assisted or beat by record amount

    Stan said they "let him (Bron) dribble and get stats"... Kerr also didn't double lebron

    No wonder his teammates didn't play that well because teams stay at home - they play an adjustment-less style against Lebron's long-dribbling and weak jumpshooting - it would be dumb to get the ball out his hands

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016 View Post
    Well. No.



    Better peak. Better consistency. More times. Equal years. What are you on about? GOAT MAN lives on.

    3ball?

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016 View Post
    Well. No.



    Better peak. Better consistency. More times. Equal years. What are you on about? GOAT MAN lives on.

    Stats LIKE PER

    Jordan has the all time highest GameScore for a playoff run, and litters the Top 10. You guys almost worship GameScore from what I’ve seen, and it’s just a simplified version of PER

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    Default Re: Which versions of Jordan were as good as 2009 and 2018 Playoff LeBron?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016 View Post
    Well. No.



    Better peak. Better consistency. More times. Equal years. What are you on about? GOAT MAN lives on.

    ^^^ Record losing vs record winning

    Lebron's top PER's are record losses (14', 18') and record upsets (09')

    So they were stat-padding drills and can't be compared to the goat winning that MJ's top PER's had in 91' and 93', and also 90' (basically beating Pistons with nothing except migraine pip)

    And MJ is #1 all-time in PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP seasons and PPG (goat stats)... And he has the most rings as the best player in modern era/3-pointer basketball (goat winning)
    Last edited by 3ball; 05-30-2020 at 12:53 PM.

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