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    Default Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June, but will that actually happen?

    https://www.aier.org/article/imperia...erous-results/

    June 26th - they're currently at 5,280 deaths with COVID-19. (Population of Sweden: 10.1 million)

    It seems the virus is about 5% as deadly as projected, perhaps even less since it's only killing people who are already dying of other illnesses. Here's the data on Sweden:

    http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/se_mortality24jun.html

    74% of deaths were in care homes / home-help services (they could have done better in this area)

    Median age of Sweden is 40.9 years old.

    0.4% of deaths in <40 years old

    99.6% of deaths 40+ years old
    96% of deaths in 60+ years old
    90% of deaths in 70+ years old


    There are approximately 90,000 deaths each year in Sweden. 88,822 people died in 2019 – the lowest number of deaths in a single year since 1977, and 3.3% less than the average over 2016–2018. The Covid-19 outbreak in 2020 may have claimed a larger number of very frail and elderly people than it would have in a different year, due to the previous influenza season being less severe. Indeed, 2018-19 was reported to have been less intense than the five previous flu seasons in Sweden.

    All cause mortality in Sweden for Jan 1 - June 14 is roughly the same as 2015. By the end of the year it will probably be lower. Remember how deadly 2015 was? Yeah, no, you don't.


    Did not lockdown
    Did not panic everyday
    Did not print trillions of dollars for big banks/corporations
    Did not mandate masks
    Did not shutdown schools
    Did not overwhelm hospitals

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    don't vaccinate your kids it's a corporate scam. also check out ops blog on flat earth, climate change and moon landings

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Sweden lashed out at the World Health Organization for listing it among countries deemed at-risk. The country made headlines for its high death toll after opting not to introduce a strict lockdown.

    "We have an increase in cases because we have begun testing much more in Sweden the past week," said Swedish state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell.
    https://timesofmalta.com/articles/vi...s-surge.801351

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    i remember watching the interview with sweden's leader or whatever... guy was basically shrugging it off and saying they arent following the hysteria.

    that's evolution right there out the north.

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley Kobrick View Post
    don't vaccinate your kids it's a corporate scam. also check out ops blog on flat earth, climate change and moon landings


    He would be the guy on here who has a blog.

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    i remember watching the interview with sweden's leader or whatever... guy was basically shrugging it off and saying they arent following the hysteria.

    that's evolution right there out the north.
    Their neighbors at their land border Norway and Finland has 249 and 328 deaths in doing conventional lockdown measures. Still giving Sweden props for thinking outside the box and beating that predictions. Over 5k deaths and most of them are dead men walking (over 70). Still far from their end game, so called herd immunity which at least 50% cases. So they need over 5 millions cases and going by their death rate so far , at least 400 k lives of the sick and the trails or in their case, the old. I’m pulling for that experiment and hopefully it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster View Post
    Their neighbors at their land border Norway and Finland has 249 and 328 deaths in doing conventional lockdown measures. Still giving Sweden props for thinking outside the box and beating that predictions. Over 5k deaths and most of them are dead men walking (over 70). Still far from their end game, so called herd immunity which at least 50% cases. So they need over 5 millions cases and going by their death rate so far , at least 400 k lives of the sick and the trails or in their case, the old. I’m pulling for that experiment and hopefully it works.
    Not doing much isn't outside the box thinking. What Korea did is good outside the box thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri View Post
    Not doing much isn't outside the box thinking. What Korea did is good outside the box thinking.
    Hmmm not really. What South Korea did was conventional . Mass testing, tracing and mandatory isolation have been a established guideline for preventing epidemic outbreaks . Though they both did not imposed a lockdown, Sweden went on zero fcuks given and roll the dice with herb immunity.

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster View Post
    Hmmm not really. What South Korea did was conventional . Mass testing, tracing and mandatory isolation have been a established guideline for preventing epidemic outbreaks . Though they both did not imposed a lockdown, Sweden went on zero fcuks given and roll the dice with herb immunity.
    Korea was not conventional at all. What mass testing? They have a quarter of the US's tests per capita. South Korea threw big data analysis into movement tracked by cell phones to estimate potential carriers. They then used that to initiate contact tracing. That way you don't need an army of professional to get the job done. They then extrapolated where their hot zones are and established rapid testing stations in just those zones. No other country did this. Meanwhile in the West, we were busy debating how not to hurt people's liberties, freedoms, consumer confidence and their fragile mentality until we decided to just take those things away anyways. Oh and their jobs and business as well while we're at it. But not the big businesses because they're "important".

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster View Post
    Their neighbors at their land border Norway and Finland has 249 and 328 deaths in doing conventional lockdown measures. Still giving Sweden props for thinking outside the box and beating that predictions. Over 5k deaths and most of them are dead men walking (over 70). Still far from their end game, so called herd immunity which at least 50% cases. So they need over 5 millions cases and going by their death rate so far , at least 400 k lives of the sick and the trails or in their case, the old. I’m pulling for that experiment and hopefully it works.
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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June,

    no they were not not

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri View Post
    Korea was not conventional at all. What mass testing? They have a quarter of the US's tests per capita. South Korea threw big data analysis into movement tracked by cell phones to estimate potential carriers. They then used that to initiate contact tracing. That way you don't need an army of professional to get the job done. They then extrapolated where their hot zones are and established rapid testing stations in just those zones. No other country did this. Meanwhile in the West, we were busy debating how not to hurt people's liberties, freedoms, consumer confidence and their fragile mentality until we decided to just take those things away anyways. Oh and their jobs and business as well while we're at it. But not the big businesses because they're "important".
    They did a mass testing on particular church group when they have an initial outbreak. About 4 k out of 240 k was positive. They were already producing 100 k test kits a day after they have a positive case January 20.

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Mhm.

    74% of deaths were in care homes / home-help services (they admitted they could have done better to protect the old folks homes, but overall a huge success).

    100,000 projected dead turned out to be roughly no difference in all cause mortality from 2015. No overwhelmed hospitals. The long-term benefits of not having a lockdown and mass destruction of daily lives (including children) was a huge success. We should have followed Sweden the entire time. Too bad we went the opposite direction and quarantined our young/healthy, stole liberty from everyone, shoved COVID-19 patients into nursing homes (Cuomo, Whitmer...), 40 million unemployed, small businesses made illegal, etc.





    (Translation: cases / ICU / deaths)

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster View Post
    Hmmm not really. What South Korea did was conventional . Mass testing, tracing and mandatory isolation have been a established guideline for preventing epidemic outbreaks . Though they both did not imposed a lockdown, Sweden went on zero fcuks given and roll the dice with herb immunity.
    Hmmm not really.

    Sweden didn't roll the dice. The weighed pros and cons and chose the correct path.

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    Default Re: Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June

    It’s almost like it’s just the flu.

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