Consistent GOAT criteria

[basketballcat]

Real 2016 MVP : Kyrie Irving, and it's not even close.

Oh, so the guy who led BOTH teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks (yes, ALL of it) doesn't deserve Finals MVP. Had higher FG% than all the other stars on BOTH teams too.

And you say "it's not even close". On that we agree.

[basketballcat]

Better scorer? Better shooter? KAJ is a center; his average was only 55.9%? Man at 7 feet he sure missed a lot of shots.

Kareem: 38,387 pts 55.9% on FG%
Jordan: 32,292 pts on 49.7% FG%

Ouch.

Can you work out % FGs missed? It's pretty simple but maybe it might take you a while.

[Hey Yo]

The same 73-9 team that went 15-9 in the playoffs? The one with a hurt Steph? The same team that got down 3-1 vs. OKC? Team that petered out in the playoffs?
LeGED had a sidekick that scored 41 points on 71% in one of those games. Remind me - what finals series did Jordan have with a sidedkick that only scored 2 PPG less than he did for an entire 7 game series? "I need moar help!"

MJ had sidekickS that held Utah to 54pts in one of the games in the 98 series.

[Overdrive]

My topmost criteria literally highlights Russell's 11 rings. But yeah, let's pretend GOAT conversations with number of rings as main criterion is about LeBron just so people can say "but Michael-Pippen-Phil has 6".

Didn't take long to show your agenda.

[Airupthere]

Didn't take long to show your agenda.

It was obvious from the opening post lol

[basketballcat]

Didn't take long to show your agenda.

Ah yes, because people are ssooooo sensitive about protecting their selective narratives.

[mr4speed]

Spurs in 96-97, year before Duncan: 20-62
Spurs in 97-98, Duncan's rookie year: 56-26
In 97-98, Duncan came in 5th in MVP voting, made the All NBA FIRST team, and All Defensive team.

Yeah, but let's pretend their turnaround has nothing to do with Duncan's individual brilliance.

Context is needed here = the year before Duncan arrived, Robinson only played in 6 games due to season ending injury and Sean Elliott only played in only 39 games that season due to injury also.

[Da_Realist]

Context is needed here = the year before Duncan arrived, Robinson only played in 6 games due to season ending injury and Sean Elliott only played in only 39 games that season due to injury also.

If he wasn't allergic to context he wouldn't have started this thread.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Context is needed here = the year before Duncan arrived, Robinson only played in 6 games due to season ending injury and Sean Elliott only played in only 39 games that season due to injury also.

OP is all about presenting the party of history that supports his agenda and hoping people forget the details that eye out. Typical troll crap.

[Gudo]

Garbage

[basketballcat]

Context is needed here = the year before Duncan arrived, Robinson only played in 6 games due to season ending injury and Sean Elliott only played in only 39 games that season due to injury also.

Oh, we're pretending that I didn't write this?:

In 97-98, Duncan came in 5th in MVP voting, made the All NBA FIRST team, and All Defensive team.

Yeah, but let's pretend their turnaround has nothing to do with Duncan's individual brilliance.

[basketballcat]

If he wasn't allergic to context he wouldn't have started this thread.

Oh, we're pretending that I didn't write this?:

In 97-98, Duncan came in 5th in MVP voting, made the All NBA FIRST team, and All Defensive team.

Yeah, but let's pretend their turnaround has nothing to do with Duncan's individual brilliance.

[basketballcat]

OP is all about presenting the party of history that supports his agenda and hoping people forget the details that eye out. Typical troll crap.

Oh, we're pretending that I didn't write this?:

In 97-98, Duncan came in 5th in MVP voting, made the All NBA FIRST team, and All Defensive team.

Yeah, but let's pretend their turnaround has nothing to do with Duncan's individual brilliance.

[mr4speed]

Oh, we're pretending that I didn't write this?:

In 97-98, Duncan came in 5th in MVP voting, made the All NBA FIRST team, and All Defensive team.

Yeah, but let's pretend their turnaround has nothing to do with Duncan's individual brilliance.

Duncan was great indeed but that 36 game turnaround was not only because of his presence. D- Rob and Elliott the prior year with all those missed games is why they only won 20 games. People forget.

[basketballcat]

Duncan was great indeed but that 36 game turnaround was not only because of his presence. D- Rob and Elliott the prior year with all those missed games is why they only won 20 games. People forget.

Where did I say "that 36 game turnaround was not only because of his presence"? You make it seem like I did and completely ignored the context: "In 97-98, Duncan came in 5th in MVP voting, made the All NBA FIRST team, and All Defensive team."

My actual sarcastic point is "Yeah, but let's pretend their turnaround has nothing to do with Duncan's individual brilliance." in response to the context "Duncan landed on good teams right out of the gate."

And you people pretend like I'm the one putting things out of context.