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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by red1
the brand of basketball point is retarded. the warriors had FAR better talent every time they faced the cavs.
are you mentally retarded?
2015 and 2017 and 2018 were massively lopsided. no love or kyrie and then the warriors had the literal most stacked team of all time with kd joining a 73-win team that was 1-shot away from winning back to back rings.
lebron was the best player in the world all 4 years.
2015-2018.
Teamwork and ball movement and chemistry matter bro. I'll explain in the next post.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by tpols
It's not even an opinion the warriors had a better brand of ball... they had the best offense of all time and GOAT assist team even without KD and also broke the all time win record.
The Dubs were factually one of the best teamwork dynasties of all time while the Cavs used to play iso ball your turn my turn with LBJ and Kyrie. That's why they underachieving their start of the season projection almost every single year while the Warriors exceeded theirs.
The fact you got so mad about it proves the point to be correct. I can't believe you guys are denying that Golden State played with far better teamwork and a less iso centric style. That's just blatantly denying reality.
kyrie and lebron ISO ball is 1-0 against the warriors brand of ball.
kyrie was injured 2015 and 2017 was against the most stacked team of all time. doesnt count.
ISO ball is 1-0 against this legendary warriors shooting-3's-in-transition-passing-up-open-layups-style.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
It's not even an opinion the warriors had a better brand of ball... they had the best offense of all time and GOAT assist team even without KD and also broke the all time win record.
The Dubs were factually one of the best teamwork dynasties of all time while the Cavs used to play iso ball your turn my turn with LBJ and Kyrie. That's why they underachieved their start of the season projection almost every single year while the Warriors exceeded theirs.
The fact you got so mad about it proves the point to be correct. I can't believe you guys are denying that Golden State played with far better teamwork and a less iso centric style. That's just blatantly denying reality.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by tpols
It's not even an opinion the warriors had a better brand of ball... they had the best offense of all time and GOAT assist team even without KD and also broke the all time win record.
The Dubs were factually one of the best teamwork dynasties of all time while the Cavs used to play iso ball your turn my turn with LBJ and Kyrie. That's why they underachieving their start of the season projection almost every single year while the Warriors exceeded theirs.
The fact you got so mad about it proves the point to be correct. I can't believe you guys are denying that Golden State played with far better teamwork and a less iso centric style. That's just blatantly denying reality.
nah it's just a low-IQ talking point from 3ball that's been debunked.
basketball is about talent.
the more talented team wins.
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MH!
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by tpols
It's not even an opinion the warriors had a better brand of ball... they had the best offense of all time and GOAT assist team even without KD and also broke the all time win record.
The Dubs were factually one of the best teamwork dynasties of all time while the Cavs used to play iso ball your turn my turn with LBJ and Kyrie. That's why they underachieving their start of the season projection almost every single year while the Warriors exceeded theirs.
The fact you got so mad about it proves the point to be correct. I can't believe you guys are denying that Golden State played with far better teamwork and a less iso centric style. That's just blatantly denying reality.
The Cavs were the #3 offense in '16 and '17 and #5 in '18. Offense wasn't an issue for them. They had ZERO rim protection and basically no help around LeBron, defensively.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
cavs never underachieved. kyrie was just fragile and then bailed in 2018.
kyrie and lebron is a multi ring winning duo against any team not named the 2017 warriors
they'd easily have won back to back rings if kyrie wasn't fragile (2015 and 2016)
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I rule the local playground
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Lebron has NEVER beat curry without Kyrie
Curry > Lebron deal with it kids
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by aj1987
The Cavs were the #3 offense in '16 and '17 and #5 in '18. Offense wasn't an issue for them. They had ZERO rim protection and basically no help around LeBron, defensively.
Nobody ever said the Cavs didn't have a great offense. Its just that the warriors had a GOAT offense with by far the #1 assist rank while say... 2016 Cavs finished #13 in assist rank. Playing more as a team with superior ball movement and chemistry unlocked this GOAT brand which led to the GOAT offense.
People now want to cry about KD joining the team, when he's been team hopping all over the league ever since and has nothing to show for it.
And then they replaced him with Wiggins and won a championship. So it's obvious the Warriors have one of the most elite brands of ball ever spurred by the off ball ability of steph curry.
Can't compare individual counting stats on one guy who faces hard doubles all game to another who gets to play in isolation because he's nowhere near the scoring threat. Warriors want lebron shooting. Lebron led teams are petrified of curry going off so much so they'll give his teammates wide open shots.
Apples and oranges.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by red1
nah it's just a low-IQ talking point from 3ball that's been debunked.
basketball is about talent.
the more talented team wins.
Its about talent and chemistry. You sound extremely ignorant acting like chemistry and style of play doesn't matter. How talent is utilized matters, obviously. The Cavs basically wasted prime All NBA Kevin Love. Who they ironically traded away Wiggins for
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by tpols
Its about talent and chemistry. You sound extremely ignorant acting like chemistry and style of play doesn't matter. How talent is utilized matters, obviously. The Cavs basically wasted prime All NBA Kevin Love. Who they ironically traded away Wiggins for
But your conclusion is what's bullshit. You're trying to argue it was brand of ball that won them these matchups with the Cavs when it was clearly their significant talent advantage. It'd be like arguing Isiah was a better playmaker than Jordan, and his playmaking advantage is why the Pistons beat them 3 years in a row, not the obvious factor that the Pistons had the better team.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
But your conclusion is what's bullshit. You're trying to argue it was brand of ball that won them these matchups with the Cavs when it was clearly their significant talent advantage. It'd be like arguing Isiah was a better playmaker than Jordan, and his playmaking advantage is why the Pistons beat them 3 years in a row, not the obvious factor that the Pistons had the better team.
The Cavs were the title favorites going into 2015 and 2016 seasons so no... the Cavs clearly had at the very least equal talent, but people putting their money where their mouth is thought they were better talent wise.
Yet Cleveland never won 70+ games or dominated the league like the Warriors did. They won once by the absolute slimmest of margins and dubious of circumstances.
It's hilarious that you can't admit that Golden state had better teamwork, ball movement and chemistry aka brand of ball. Just.... absurd that you won't concede that.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Anytime Curry produced a superior team with less help, he outplayed Lebron that season, so this includes 2015, 2022 and probably this year.. He produced a better team in 2016 too but Adam Silver & injuries
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by tpols
Its about talent and chemistry. You sound extremely ignorant acting like chemistry and style of play doesn't matter. How talent is utilized matters, obviously. The Cavs basically wasted prime All NBA Kevin Love. Who they ironically traded away Wiggins for
how did they waste love. he won a championship. you're acting like every team has the personnel to play the warriors style.
the only reason they can play like that is because they have the two best shooters in NBA history.
why would you give kevin love more shots when you have lebron fucking james and kyrie fucking irving on your team.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Curry has NEVER outplayed Bron in the playoffs
Originally Posted by tpols
The Cavs were the title favorites going into 2015 and 2016 seasons so no... the Cavs clearly had at the very least equal talent, but people putting their money where their mouth is thought they were better talent wise.
Yet Cleveland never won 70+ games or dominated the league like the Warriors did. They won once by the absolute slimmest of margins and dubious of circumstances.
It's hilarious that you can't admit that Golden state had better teamwork, ball movement and chemistry aka brand of ball. Just.... absurd that you won't concede that.
title favorites because you got the GOAT on the team
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