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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Also leaves off that Moses Malone who was coming off an MVP season joined a Sixers team that had made the Finals 2 of the previous 3 years.

    He tries to make it seem like team hopping is a fairly new thing and teams back then won organically, but in reality it's always been a thing, just not as popular as it later became.



    He is, and I just showed you why.

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    The Rockets franchise was sold, and the new owners decided that Malone's $2 million annual salary did not fit their plans. Houston matched the offer and agreed to trade Malone to the 76ers for Jones and their first-round pick in the 1983 NBA draft on September 15. It's hardly the same.

    https://www.nba.com/sixers/news/sixe...n-philadelphia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    It wasn't just Lebron joining a talented team though. Another all star came along to join their all star friend and they even took less money to do it.
    And it hurt Miami's depth because of it. Another signing they made that people forget was Mike Miller, he was supposed to be their 4th option, but he completely fell off a cliff by the time he got to Miami, mostly due to injuries. In that first year in Miami they had a 35 year old Big Z and a 32 year old Mike Bibby starting for them in the playoffs, both averaged around 3 ppg in the postseason.

    Moses joined an already stacked team. It was similar to KD joining the Warriors in a way.

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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    The Rockets franchise was sold, and the new owners decided that Malone's $2 million annual salary did not fit their plans. Houston matched the offer and agreed to trade Malone to the 76ers for Jones and their first-round pick in the 1983 NBA draft on September 15. It's hardly the same.

    https://www.nba.com/sixers/news/sixe...n-philadelphia
    Moses joined them as a free agent.

    Technically, the Cavs traded LeBron to Miami but we know that isn't what happened. Cavs got like 4 draft picks from Miami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    You can tell who only watches certain teams (in limited quantities) every year and promotes narratives instead of studying what's going on in the league. It's people like TheCousinFu...I mean, OP.
    Seething

    I hate to break it to you but I didn't create the video...this is a narrative that a huge part of the NBA community believes. Why kill the messenger One of the reasons LeBron is one of the most hated athletes out there.

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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Yes...

    We have never before seen the arguably number 1 and number 2 best players collude in their primes before and then they added an additional All NBA talent as the cherry on top of the cake.

    It would be like Magic and Bird joining the same team in the 80s or MJ and Hakeem joining the same team in the 90s. And then having a losing Finals record together. Can you imagine that?

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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Yes...

    We have never before seen the arguably number 1 and number 2 best players collude in their primes before and then they added an additional All NBA talent as the cherry on top of the cake.

    It would be like Magic and Bird joining the same team in the 80s or MJ and Hakeem joining the same team in the 90s. And then having a losing Finals record together. Can you imagine that?
    The Lebron/Wade/Bosh Superteam came about because LBJ had just lost to Boston and felt he couldn't beat those guys.

    An equivalent to that would have been Jordan joining the Pistons in the 80's because he couldn't beat Bird and the Celtics. That's why it's such a bitch move. Same with Durant. He had the Warriors down 3-1, lost, and then joined them. Pathetic.

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    Kareem demanded a trade our of Milwaukee and threatened to sit out until he was.

    Kobe refused to sign with the lottery Nets and would only sign with the contending Lakers...

    Is there mention of that in the video?

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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    Kareem demanded a trade our of Milwaukee and threatened to sit out until he was.

    Kobe refused to sign with the lottery Nets and would only sign with the contending Lakers...

    Is there mention of that in the video?
    Comparing Kareem's situation to the Decision is laughable at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    The Lebron/Wade/Bosh Superteam came about because LBJ had just lost to Boston and felt he couldn't beat those guys.

    An equivalent to that would have been Jordan joining the Pistons in the 80's because he couldn't beat Bird and the Celtics. That's why it's such a bitch move. Same with Durant. He had the Warriors down 3-1, lost, and then joined them. Pathetic.
    MJ never hit free agency to sign with whomever he wanted
    until the summer of 96'.... he took the money to become the highest paid player in 1988.

    Miami wasn't nearly as good as Detroit before James was traded there.

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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    Kareem demanded a trade our of Milwaukee and threatened to sit out until he was.

    Kobe refused to sign with the lottery Nets and would only sign with the contending Lakers...

    Is there mention of that in the video?
    Kobe was a nobody in the NBA at that point. LBJ was a two time MVP hooking up with another NBA top star along with a perennial All Star player to boot, all in their prime. You can't see the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    Comparing Kareem's situation to the Decision is laughable at best.
    One demanded a trade while under contract, the other was a free agent to choose where he wanted to play.

    Fulfilling your commitment to the contract >>> doing the opposite.

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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    One demanded a trade while under contract, the other was a free agent to choose where he wanted to play.

    Fulfilling your commitment to the contract >>> doing the opposite.
    Kareem already won in Milwaukee with a washed up Robertson and demanded a trade to a 30 win team. Nothing about this was cowardly or an attempt to stack the talent in his favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Kobe was a nobody in the NBA at that point. LBJ was a two time MVP hooking up with another NBA top star along with a perennial All Star player to boot, all in their prime. You can't see the difference?
    Yes, I'm sure James would have gotten a pass from the public if he told Cleveland that he wouldn't sign with them and only would sign with a contender

    Plus I'm sure ge would've gotten a 2nd pass for demanding a trade after 3 mediocre years as 1st option

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    Kareem already won in Milwaukee with a washed up Robertson and demanded a trade to a 30 win team. Nothing about this was cowardly or an attempt to stack the talent in his favor.
    He ducked the fulfillment of his contract... that's a bitch move that should be noted.

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    Default Re: The Coward's Way: A Complete History Of The Decision That Ruined The NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Yes...

    We have never before seen the arguably number 1 and number 2 best players collude in their primes before and then they added an additional All NBA talent as the cherry on top of the cake.

    It would be like Magic and Bird joining the same team in the 80s or MJ and Hakeem joining the same team in the 90s. And then having a losing Finals record together. Can you imagine that?
    And for me the worst thing I saw was the sound bite where Lebron said "not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6..." as a deliberate admission that this was expected to be a dynasty to yield enough rings so that Lebron could surpass Jordan's ring count. Then another sound bite after the great win against the Warriors "That one right there made me the greatest of all time" was just cringeworthy. I am not a Lebron hater but Lebron brings all this hostility upon himself with these quotes. Praise coming from other players will carry more weight than praising yourself. Just my opinion.

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