Jokic is starting his GOAT run now

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My point is not to trash Jokic. It's simply to call out that he needs more to cement himself. The notion that if he retired today he'd be in anyone's top 10 list is totally absurd

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By this logic Nash has more MVPs than most of the guys in his "era". Shaq, Kobe, Garnett, Dirk, Wade, etc. Nobody considers him better than any of those guys in all- time rankings.

The only thing Nash has over Kobe on his resume would be the extra MVP. In it's totality, Kobe vs Nash is a non conversation. 5 titles, two as the man vs zero finals appearances for Nash. Way more All NBA teams, more all defensive, more FMVP.

Jokic doesn't just have 3 MVPs, he has the entire package besides All Defensive selections. Giannis resume is the only one that stacks up comparatively. We will see how the back half of their careers go to see who separates from the pack. Or maybe they don't.

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The only thing Nash has over Kobe on his resume would be the extra MVP. In it's totality, Kobe vs Nash is a non conversation. 5 titles, two as the man vs zero finals appearances for Nash. Way more All NBA teams, more all defensive, more FMVP.

Jokic doesn't just have 3 MVPs, he has the entire package besides All Defensive selections. Giannis resume is the only one that stacks up comparatively. We will see how the back half of their careers go to see who separates from the pack. Or maybe they don't.

Your reply seems to support my point that multiple MVPs in a short period don't define a career. If you're agreeing, then we are saying the same thing which is that Jokic has a great foundation, but more work needs to be done to say he's dominated his era.