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Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Today's best fall short of previous era's best because the unspaced, physical eras was a tougher format that produced better players.
The unspaced, physical format required better basketball instinct, touch and pure scoring ability than today's spaced-out, hands-off, open paint, beginner format
So better players were produced..
Today's game only requires a down-hill skillet.. This down-hill skillet isn't 5-man basketball, so it doesn't produce great-performing casts, aka great teams.
Last edited by 3ba11; 05-22-2024 at 12:19 PM.
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Olympic Gold Medalist
Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
A 22 year old Jordan knockoff beat the reigning 3 time mvp at the peak of his powers#nopippen.....Thread checks out.
you know how people say "no diddy"? welll for now on im saying "no pippen" to jokic fans to humble them on here
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Olympic Gold Medalist
Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
also you dont have to say Duncan > jokic anymore.... that debate is officially dead......no pippen
see i just did it
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
MJ < Ant.
Oh, and Embiid lost to a far worse 22 year old in 2021.
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National High School Star
Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
I don't know why people always have to go to extremes when it comes to these comparisons it always feels very lazy. What would be the closest compelling argument
Bron > KAJ
Curry > Dr. J
Giannis > Barry
Durant > Iverson
Jokic > Gervin
CPIII > Ewing
Kwai > Pippen
Harden > Arizin
Luka > R. Miller
Butler > Drexler
Tatum > Dantely
Westbrook > Dumars
Booker > Mullin
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Is it in you?
Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Originally Posted by 3ba11
Today's best fall short of previous era's best because the unspaced, physical eras was a tougher format that produced better players.
The unspaced, physical format required better basketball instinct, touch and pure scoring ability than today's spaced-out, hands-off, open paint, beginner format
So better players were produced..
Today's game only requires a down-hill skillet.. This down-hill skillet isn't 5-man basketball, so it doesn't produce great-performing casts, aka great teams.
If you hate today's ball stop watching. You're miserable
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Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
You putting Bron above Luka?
Madness!
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Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Originally Posted by hateraid
If you hate today's ball stop watching. You're miserable
It's a problem because it costs us in international play when our best players get routinely embarrassed - we have far superior athletic talent but our superior talent gets destroyed by superior chemistry and brand of ball.. Other countries have the superior physicality, mid-range touch and quicker instinct required in a lesser-spaced and more physical environment of international rules and play.. So our beginner format gets exposed internationally - I think it will be a final capper of Lebron's career to lead us to massive blowout loss in international play before the gold medal game - you heard it here first but it's actually quite intuitive based on his history and it's exacerbated now that he's old.
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Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Originally Posted by 3ba11
It's a problem because it costs us in international play when our best players get routinely embarrassed - we have far superior athletic talent but our superior talent gets destroyed by superior chemistry and brand of ball.. Other countries have the superior physicality, mid-range touch and quicker instinct required in a lesser-spaced and more physical environment of international rules and play.. So our beginner format gets exposed internationally - I think it will be a final capper of Lebron's career to lead us to massive blowout loss in international play before the gold medal game - you heard it here first but it's actually quite intuitive based on his history and it's exacerbated now that he's old.
Could you clarify why you think Lebron, at almost 40 years old, will be the leader?
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Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Originally Posted by 3ba11
It's a problem because it costs us in international play when our best players get routinely embarrassed - we have far superior athletic talent but our superior talent gets destroyed by superior chemistry and brand of ball.. Other countries have the superior physicality, mid-range touch and quicker instinct required in a lesser-spaced and more physical environment of international rules and play.. So our beginner format gets exposed internationally - I think it will be a final capper of Lebron's career to lead us to massive blowout loss in international play before the gold medal game - you heard it here first but it's actually quite intuitive based on his history and it's exacerbated now that he's old.
Bruh, you need to explain yourself why you put Bron, a bumbling freighttrain, but not a skilled player, above Luka?
Is you on that Perk time?
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Impartial NBA analyst
Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Jordan was a homeless man's Anthony Edwards. He's be a good 6th man in today's NBA though. Possibly even some 6th man of the year votes
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NBA All-star
Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Originally Posted by 90sgoat
Bruh, you need to explain yourself why you put Bron, a bumbling freighttrain, but not a skilled player, above Luka?
Is you on that Perk time?
He put bird above Luka. Bron vs mj was a different comparison…
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Re: Luka < Bird.. Bron < MJ... Giannis/Jokic < Shaq/Hakeem/KAJ/Duncan
Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
He put bird above Luka. Bron vs mj was a different comparison…
I see..
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