I'm listening to Rasheed Wallace talk KG vs Duncan...

[Mask the Embiid]

Thinly veiled jab at Jokic.

Nice!

I don’t do veiled shots. I throw unrecoverable left hooks at jokic…. When I take a shot at him. What i said was a fact….and that goes for any championship team. 2 rings solidifies you. This has nothing to do with “your boy”

[Mask the Embiid]

1:30

Look at em…..blind hating . I didn’t know anything about their history going all the way back to college but just by the OP. I already knew what time it was. I don’t tip ppl off when I read em though, cause they start trying to hide it. Tip for everyone


“He was a solid player” he tries to catch himself lol but he just can’t help himself “playing on one team your whole career changes everything”. “You know his teammate was really the man on that college team”…. lol hating azz. Man went on a 4 min rant blind hating…envy is terrible fellas…and ya can’t even see it


He was the one who was the #1 recruit in highschool. Timmy was a nobody coming out of highschool. And he had to sit and watch as this guy beat him in college, become the #1 pick, and then pass him as the greatest pf of all time… n he at to sit there and witness it….. he hates him

[ShawkFactory]

Yikes.

Yea that’s why you never should take anything seriously that clearly passionate ex-players have to say. Isiah Thomas has very recently gotten over Jordan. And the only reason he got over hating on Bird was because of Jordan.

People have their biases and just because they played against everyone doesn’t mean they’re objective.

Although.. it’s laughable now to compare KG to Duncan I guess but in the 03-04 range when both were at the absolute peak of their powers it was very tough to pick who was better. Probably would have gone with Duncan myself, as many would have, but it was a razor thin margin.

[rmt]

Yes, Duncan was a nobody coming out of high school because he was just LEARNING the game (after switching from swimming).

Rasheed:

I don't know if he would have been able to carry a team early on the way that KG did. KG was everything for that team. Tim Duncan didn't become that until he was seasoned and that was when he got the likes/lights? to play with Manu ... he got to grow into it... to carry his team. In the prime - from the door - I would say KG.

Duncan (before Manu even joined the NBA)
1998-99 22 SAS NBA PF 50 50 39.3 8.4 16.9 .495 0.0 0.1 .143 8.3 16.8 .498 .495 4.9 7.2 .690 3.2 8.2 11.4 2.4 0.9 2.5 2.9 2.9 21.7 MVP-3,NBA1,DEF1,DPOY-5
1999-00 23 SAS NBA PF 74 74 38.9 8.5 17.3 .490 0.0 0.1 .091 8.5 17.2 .494 .491 6.2 8.1 .761 3.5 8.9 12.4 3.2 0.9 2.2 3.3 2.8 23.2 MVP-5,NBA1,DEF1,AS
2000-01 24 SAS NBA PF 82 82 38.7 8.6 17.1 .499 0.1 0.3 .259 8.5 16.8 .504 .502 5.0 8.1 .618 3.2 9.0 12.2 3.0 0.9 2.3 3.0 3.0 22.2 MVP-2,NBA1,DEF1,AS,DPOY-3
2001-02 25 SAS NBA PF 82 82 40.6 9.3 18.3 .508 0.0 0.1 .100 9.3 18.2 .511 .508 6.8 8.5 .799 3.3 9.4 12.7 3.7 0.7 2.5 3.2 2.6 25.5 MVP-1,NBA1,DEF1,AS


KG
1995-96 19 MIN NBA SF 80 43 28.7 4.5 9.2 .491 0.1 0.4 .286 4.4 8.8 .499 .497 1.3 1.9 .705 2.2 4.1 6.3 1.8 1.1 1.6 1.4 2.4 10.4 ROY-6
1996-97 20 MIN NBA SF 77 77 38.9 7.1 14.3 .499 0.1 0.3 .286 7.1 14.0 .503 .502 2.7 3.5 .754 2.5 5.6 8.0 3.1 1.4 2.1 2.3 2.6 17.0 AS,MIP-8
1997-98 21 MIN NBA PF 82 82 39.3 7.7 15.8 .491 0.0 0.2 .188 7.7 15.6 .495 .492 3.0 4.0 .738 2.7 6.9 9.6 4.2 1.7 1.8 2.3 2.7 18.5 AS,DPOY-11
1998-99 22 MIN NBA PF 47 47 37.9 8.8 19.1 .460 0.1 0.3 .286 8.7 18.9 .463 .462 3.1 4.4 .704 3.5 6.9 10.4 4.3 1.7 1.8 2.9 3.2 20.8 MVP-10,NBA3,DPOY-7

Rasheed's got some memory problems.

[HoopsNY]

I’d say having played so many times it’s likely to run together. David did in fact shoot more than Tim 3 of the first 4 times they played Portland and Rasheed but who knows what he’s remembering and from when. I’d be more interested in his feelings on how they had to be guarded and approached than the hot take aspects.

He has a lot of weird things to say and unexpected preferences in the clips I’ve seen.

Yea, I was about to say this. Robinson led the team in scoring in 1998, so maybe he meant Duncan's rookie year? And like you mentioned, 3/4 of the games, Robinson had more FGA. So it's possible Sheed is just thinking of the first year. But anyone who watched '99 onward knew who the ball was going to.

[HoopsNY]

Yes, Duncan was a nobody coming out of high school because he was just LEARNING the game (after switching from swimming).

Rasheed:

I don't know if he would have been able to carry a team early on the way that KG did. KG was everything for that team. Tim Duncan didn't become that until he was seasoned and that was when he got the likes/lights? to play with Manu ... he got to grow into it... to carry his team. In the prime - from the door - I would say KG.

Duncan (before Manu even joined the NBA)
1998-99 22 SAS NBA PF 50 50 39.3 8.4 16.9 .495 0.0 0.1 .143 8.3 16.8 .498 .495 4.9 7.2 .690 3.2 8.2 11.4 2.4 0.9 2.5 2.9 2.9 21.7 MVP-3,NBA1,DEF1,DPOY-5
1999-00 23 SAS NBA PF 74 74 38.9 8.5 17.3 .490 0.0 0.1 .091 8.5 17.2 .494 .491 6.2 8.1 .761 3.5 8.9 12.4 3.2 0.9 2.2 3.3 2.8 23.2 MVP-5,NBA1,DEF1,AS
2000-01 24 SAS NBA PF 82 82 38.7 8.6 17.1 .499 0.1 0.3 .259 8.5 16.8 .504 .502 5.0 8.1 .618 3.2 9.0 12.2 3.0 0.9 2.3 3.0 3.0 22.2 MVP-2,NBA1,DEF1,AS,DPOY-3
2001-02 25 SAS NBA PF 82 82 40.6 9.3 18.3 .508 0.0 0.1 .100 9.3 18.2 .511 .508 6.8 8.5 .799 3.3 9.4 12.7 3.7 0.7 2.5 3.2 2.6 25.5 MVP-1,NBA1,DEF1,AS


KG
1995-96 19 MIN NBA SF 80 43 28.7 4.5 9.2 .491 0.1 0.4 .286 4.4 8.8 .499 .497 1.3 1.9 .705 2.2 4.1 6.3 1.8 1.1 1.6 1.4 2.4 10.4 ROY-6
1996-97 20 MIN NBA SF 77 77 38.9 7.1 14.3 .499 0.1 0.3 .286 7.1 14.0 .503 .502 2.7 3.5 .754 2.5 5.6 8.0 3.1 1.4 2.1 2.3 2.6 17.0 AS,MIP-8
1997-98 21 MIN NBA PF 82 82 39.3 7.7 15.8 .491 0.0 0.2 .188 7.7 15.6 .495 .492 3.0 4.0 .738 2.7 6.9 9.6 4.2 1.7 1.8 2.3 2.7 18.5 AS,DPOY-11
1998-99 22 MIN NBA PF 47 47 37.9 8.8 19.1 .460 0.1 0.3 .286 8.7 18.9 .463 .462 3.1 4.4 .704 3.5 6.9 10.4 4.3 1.7 1.8 2.9 3.2 20.8 MVP-10,NBA3,DPOY-7

Rasheed's got some memory problems.

Yea not to mention Duncan beat KG in the playoffs in '99. '99 was actually a historic run. The Spurs went 15-2 against their opponents. The only better performance up until that time might have been the '83 Sixers, and that was a manufactured team due to Moses joining them.

[warriorfan]

I don’t do veiled shots. I throw unrecoverable left hooks at jokic…. When I take a shot at him. What i said was a fact….and that goes for any championship team. 2 rings solidifies you. This has nothing to do with “your boy”

[rmt]

My apologies - I didn't grab TD's 1st year (and so KG's 5th year):

TD
1997-98 21 SAS NBA PF 82 82 39.1 8.6 15.7 .549 0.0 0.1 .000 8.6 15.6 .553 .549 3.9 5.9 .662 3.3 8.6 11.9 2.7 0.7 2.5 3.4 3.1 21.1 MVP-5,NBA1,DEF2,AS,ROY-1,DPOY-5

KG
1999-00 23 MIN NBA PF 81 81 40.0 9.4 18.8 .497 0.4 1.0 .370 9.0 17.8 .504 .507 3.8 5.0 .765 2.8 9.0 11.8 5.0 1.5 1.6 3.3 2.5 22.9 MVP-2,NBA1,DEF1,AS,DPOY-7