The 2011-2014 Heat don't seem stacked anymore

[1987_Lakers]

If you really knew basketball history you would know that various Celtics averaged 20+ throughout various years .

So did the ‘89 Pistons. Seriously, you are making a complete fool of yourself here and everyone sees it.

[FKAri]

2011 was top heavy and not stacked. But after that they definitely were

[Real Men Wear Green]

So did the ‘89 Pistons. Seriously, you are making a complete fool of yourself here and everyone sees it.

So you are saying that they are all-time stacked now? Made up your mind?

[1987_Lakers]

So you are saying that they are all-time stacked now? Made up your mind?

I already stated my position.

[NBAGOAT]

Yea, focus on the 10 PPG while ignoring the 64% TS% (including 48% from 3).

ray allen isnt playing much due to his defense. he at that stage in his career isnt on the same tier as jrue white etc. Someone like current kcp is likely better due to defense even accounting for era I think.

[Dbrog]

2012 Heat if today would be something like:

Jokic
Siakam
Sam Hauser
SGA
Tyus Jones

It's actually much better than this as Siakam was never 4th in the NBA in PER so maybe something like (also building it like the heat instead of strictly PER):

Derrick Jones Jr (Battier/Haslem)
Brow or Bron (Bosh)
Giannis (2012 Bron)
Shai (Wade)
Jrue Holiday or maybe Pat Bev (Chalmers)

That's pretty fcking stacked if you ask me.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's actually much better than this as Siakam was never 4th in the NBA in PER so maybe something like (also building it like the heat instead of strictly PER):

Derrick Jones Jr (Battier/Haslem)
Brow or Bron (Bosh)
Giannis (2012 Bron)
Shai (Wade)
Jrue Holiday or maybe Pat Bev (Chalmers)

That's pretty fcking stacked if you ask me.

As terrible as the Bosh one is, claiming Chalmers is the equivalent of Jrue is indefensibly bad.

[RRR3]

It's actually much better than this as Siakam was never 4th in the NBA in PER so maybe something like (also building it like the heat instead of strictly PER):

Derrick Jones Jr (Battier/Haslem)
Brow or Bron (Bosh)
Giannis (2012 Bron)
Shai (Wade)
Jrue Holiday or maybe Pat Bev (Chalmers)

That's pretty fcking stacked if you ask me.

Hassan Whiteside was 7th in PER in 2016 lol. He had Wade and Bosh as teammates too. Using that stat in 2024 is crazy.

[RRR3]

As ridiculous as the Bosh one is, claiming Chalmers is the equivalent of Jrue is indefensibly bad.

Even funnier is he apparently thinks Jrue and Pat Bev are similar players despite them being easily comparable due to both being in the league rn. Also despite how "stacked" that team is they wouldn't win shit in 2024. LeBron is arguably the best 3PT shooter on that team, completely ass spacing. They'd go 82-0 in 1995 though.

[NBAGOAT]

It's actually much better than this as Siakam was never 4th in the NBA in PER so maybe something like (also building it like the heat instead of strictly PER):

Derrick Jones Jr (Battier/Haslem)
Brow or Bron (Bosh)
Giannis (2012 Bron)
Shai (Wade)
Jrue Holiday or maybe Pat Bev (Chalmers)

That's pretty fcking stacked if you ask me.

i have epm for those years. Bosh was like a +3 in 2010 94th percentile. Thats good but more like current lauri markkanen or chet holmgren instead of AD. Tpols was right about chalmers but he isnt jrue holiday, maybe more deanthony melton. if you're looking at 12 team then wade isnt on shai's lvl. more like mitchell/ant.

Chet
Giannis
Lu Dort
mitchell
Deanthony melton

Yea likely winning a title the 12/13 heat are all time teams for a reason.

[RRR3]

i have epm for those years. Bosh was like a +3 in 2010 94th percentile. Thats good but more like current lauri markkanen or chet holmgren instead of AD. Tpols was right about chalmers but he isnt jrue holiday, maybe more deanthony melton. if you're looking at 12 team then wade isnt on shai's lvl. more like mitchell/ant.

Chet
Giannis
Lu Dort
mitchell
Deanthony melton

Yea likely winning a title the 12/13 heat are all time teams for a reason.

Man that is pretty perfect for 12/13 Heat, nicely done. Now I want to see that team


Still mad Chalmers tore his achilles and was trash after that Such a good role player before that, he would have lasted a while.

[NBAGOAT]

Man that is pretty perfect for 12/13 Heat, nicely done. Now I want to see that team


Still mad Chalmers tore his achilles and was trash after that Such a good role player before that, he would have lasted a while.

i see them winning a title if you replace giannis with prime bron(there's a gap there). Boston is so good they stack up with the version with giannis however. This team is more talented than boston but has more holes.

[Dbrog]

Hassan Whiteside was 7th in PER in 2016 lol. He had Wade and Bosh as teammates too. Using that stat in 2024 is crazy.

I don't typically even like PER but I see it constantly posted on here. My post is in line with that. Siakam is a far stranger comparison to Bosh as he was never leading the Raptors anywhere or leading the league in double doubles, etc etc. Your Jokic to Bron comparison is very confusing too as they are nothing like each other.

Side note: obviously oldman Jrue is still better than Bev but Chalmers was pretty similar back then as he was a good defender who could occasionally get hot on offense. I don't really see the stretch here

[Dbrog]

i have epm for those years. Bosh was like a +3 in 2010 94th percentile. Thats good but more like current lauri markkanen or chet holmgren instead of AD. Tpols was right about chalmers but he isnt jrue holiday, maybe more deanthony melton. if you're looking at 12 team then wade isnt on shai's lvl. more like mitchell/ant.

Chet
Giannis
Lu Dort
mitchell
Deanthony melton

Yea likely winning a title the 12/13 heat are all time teams for a reason.

Yup that's a solid comparison, though I would lean more towards Ant than Mitchell as Mitchell is truly awful on defense

[NBAGOAT]

Yup that's a solid comparison, though I would lean more towards Ant than Mitchell as Mitchell is truly awful on defense

sure but I kinda balanced out there since chet is better defender than bosh. Also think mitchell is still a little better than ant overall and rather be generous with the comparisons there. Tbf no holes on defense if you put in ant but I think giannis needs the extra help on offense. 2012 lebron wouldnt